I think the first time people (like me) started realising how he truly was when he called one of those Thailand rescue divers a pedophile. He went fully mask off in barely any time after that.

Because how quickly he switched I still wonder if he is someone like Kanye who needs to be on meds otherwise he just can't help himself saying absolutely insane stuff.

It seemed more sudden and severe than just "oh some people didn't not like him and then things changed".

I didn't know much about him really but he seemed to be investing in tech that could really shape the future, which I thought was "progressive". Like when the first Tesla hit the market "big oil" had been suppressing the EV industry forever and putting your money behind something like that was bold and progressive.

Now he's a Nazi supporting conservative nutty governments all over the world.

It's fine. He had potential, and he really did move fast and break things to make Tesla what it was. I don't think EVs would be where they are today without him.

The pedophile thing really was the turning point. It was possible to see before then, but it wasn't even the event itself that did it. He just changed fast around that time period. Whether his views changed or he just started revealing and acting on them much more is debatable.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but McAfee must have been at least somewhat skilled in the past, no? That doesn't sound much like Musk.

On 23 June 2021, he was found dead due to an apparent suicide by hanging in his prison cell near Barcelona shortly after the Spanish National Court authorized his extradition to the U.S.[16][17][18]

I guess there is one way he could become the next McAfee...

I wonder what this timeline would be like if he had accepted that his submarine idea was naive despite the good intentions and just paid to have a nice setup with comfortable tents and catered food for the divers and kids as they got out of the cave (plus their families). Instead of attacking the guy and showing the world who he was, kicking off a cycle of him lashing out at his falling popularity, resulting in it falling even more, then more lashing out, etc.

Even if he was like that the whole time, he might have kept his mask on instead of leaning into it, probably would have never made that offer for Twitter, might have tried to appear neutral instead of joining Trump's campaign.

Though hard to say because the self-driving bs and cybertruck would have still happened and might have kicked off that cycle anyways.

He probably thought, "I could do their job!" and fired them to save money.

There was a time, in December of 2016, where I really thought that trump might come out as a democrat after taking office. I think I’d still prefer Gore had been inaugurated, if we’re changing the presidencies of this century, but trump coming out swinging for progressive causes (or at least socially progressive causes, because he’s been too rich for any actually leftist fiscal policies) would have been nice

a dose of more than 150 mg is required to enter the K-hole.[3]

I love the fact that is actually a phrase you can read in a Wikipedia article.

If you take K while you're already disassociating from something else, say, trauma and depression, will it cause you to reassociate?

Asking for a friend.