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And hang out in Epstein’s plane, with Bill, because that motherfucker is always there?

Like, they are all implicated apparently. Anyone you can think of…Chomsky, Mick Jagger, Barney, Elmo, Big Bird. Maybe Marx was just wrong about dialectical materialism, should have been dialectical pedophilia wtf

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[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 60 points 1 month ago (2 children)

unironically yes

I have always held the legitimate belief that all billionaires are paedophiles

to attain one billion dollars, you need to be so comfortable with the exploitation of your fellow man that you actually relish it - even in a financialised society where labour and wealth are so incredibly disconnected. it is beyond passive permission, you actively need to enjoy and consistently engage in subjugation, punishment and humiliation to extract such a level of surplus value that you reach a number with that many zeroes.

the extension of this lust for exploitation, when applied to actual sexual desires, becomes pretty clear - base sexual violence. what is the pinnacle of exploitative sexual violence? yeah.

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago (3 children)

legitimate belief that all billionaires are paedophiles

Even Taylor Swift dated a 17 year old at 22, a fact hardcore Swifties have tried their hardest to bury.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Uh oh a horde of terminally online people are going to type furiously at you from the depths of the net

[–] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

She moved next to him first, even. It was one of the kennedys or something.

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, Conor Kennedy. What makes it worse is he was grieving and pretty emotionally vulnerable at the time. She was obsessed with the Kennedys and already tried to date one of them but got rejected.

The age gap might have been unironically the least problematic thing about that relationship.

[–] larrythecabalguy@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

the other wild h*rry styles moment is when he was reported to have been "dating" caroline flack in 2011 while she was 32 & harry was 17

caroline had previously dated prince harry in 2009 & went on to host love island up until 2020 when she died from suicide

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This. The mental state of someone who exploits people this much and effectively made themselves into modern demigods, is going to be naturally disconnected from humanity. They develop weird ass beliefs start to believe their own bullshit, and surround themselves with people who will never tell them no. It's a recipe for becoming a psychotic megalomaniac.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

they also basically mentally age regress. some more extreme then others. but being told you are right and a god i think basically does brain damage.

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 57 points 1 month ago

You know who wasn't on Epstein's Plane? Miss Rachel.

[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i will continue to assume every rich person is a pedophile until they release the full, unredacted epstein files

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Safe bet by the looks of it

[–] Inui@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone who was there should have just said so and disavowed as hard as possible if they wanted to avoid suspicion or were actually innocent. Chomsky's "its none of your business" is not a good answer when all known associates are automatically considered participants.

tbf he can't come out and say he was going to the island to talk to his cia and mossad handlers

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Pedophiles are effective and safe intelligence assets, the US and Israeli intelligence services probably stumbled on that fact early on in their histories and have actively cultivated pedophilia among the elites, while also raising up low class pedos as disposable agents

It's widespread because it truly works as a means of control and blackmail

The neuroscience concerning wealth and it's negative effect on the brain also plays a role, while money doesn't make you a pedo, it does seem to indirectly physically damage the empathy centers of the brain which leaves these people open to a kind of social pedophilia (sex for control and access, not necessarily pleasure)

Intelligence strategies of control and the already vicious nature of the capitalist class fully explains how the Epstein phenomenon came to be, no coincidence it reached its height at the same time the US empire reached its zenith

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

I think Meyer Lansky started it. He kept blackmail material on rich and powerful men, which included CSAM. Lansky was part of the mafiosos that the CIA and FBI were chummy with. He later fled to Israel to escape tax evasion charges in the US.

[–] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Youth is also fetishized in western culture (and others).

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

How convenient is it for those who wield these intelligence assets that the entire ruling class is made up of pedos

[–] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 1 month ago

Domination is the main draw. Being so rich to transgress as widely without accountability, having so much control over this dehumanized entity that you enforce your will upon it and its basically helpless to resist. "Corrupting" something "so innocence" all the weird patriarchal BS already floating around. I dont think most arent even pedos themselves.

Besides Epstein was a fixer, a banker, a moneylender, a trafficker, the owner of Djibouti a massive node in the international trade system, an envoy, an agent of the empire securing weapons deals - he provided a lot services and had a lot of connections, as one needs to have and the child trafficking ring is just the icing on the cake, and therefore perhaps reporting on the least damming aspect of his (to the empire) is preferable to telling it all.

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know what's crazy is when you say it loud to people in public they look at you like you're fucking crazy. People don't want to face a number of realities like capitalism being a total dead end for humanity... And that were ruled by fucking disgusting genocidal pedophiles

[–] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 month ago

Because they cling to the idea that we live in a meritocracy and are cultural calvinist - those with great power and MUST have great amount of "moral currency"

[–] Spike@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago
[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a way to push for in-group solidarity, in order to be that rich you need nepotism and connections and if someone isn't going to play along, they aren't welcome in the club. It also serves as insurance and blackmail to keep people in line.

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s like fraternity hazing in that way.

[–] Red_October@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Or the mafia. The parasite class is no different.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Since libs like to blame Russia for everything I assume Russia forced them to be despicable pedos right?

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've tried to make sense of it too. All I can think of is that it's a "You're part of the club now" thing. A gross power play that keeps them all bizarrely on the same page? Maybe something to do with their bizarre fixation with power over others? Could be something as petty as "We are going to prove to ourselves how above the common law we are by doing the most heinous shit possible"?

Who the hell knows, but there can't be a nice reason for it and I hope hell exists to give them what they deserve because no punishment on Earth is enough for r*pists

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You can avoid fedposting with a simple neat trick. You can say something on the lines of Bill Gates should be legally tried and executed for being a pedophile r**ist for any billionaire.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

I meant Bill Clinton, but yeah the cum harvester was in a lot of photos as well

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

maybe there's just a switch in the human brain that makes children look attractive once your bank account gets full enough, idk

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Class lines cut really deep apparently, we simply lack the genes that get us horn over children

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nothing I can say is outside CW, everything Epstein related as a general warning:

spoilerI think it’s less than the pathology of child attraction and more the pathology of constant transgression for the thrill of it.

We legally call the pedophiles’ actions as r*** because the power dynamic means children can’t legally consent. It’s a legal dynamic designed to shield children and it’s a good one. But I think we run the risk of misidentification in this circumstance.

Some of these men are undoubtedly pedophiles. Some of them might not, specifically, be attracted to children. What Epstein was was a removed. His pathology is that of a serial removed, and what was being “sold” by him was removed.

In a way the entire pedophilia thing is almost a distraction. I am sure the number of victims who were legally of a consenting age in a given place isn’t insignificant either.

What all of the victims have in common is a general youth or outright child-likeness. The power dynamic is part of this. This is basically whatremoved culture looks like because this is it when it’s rich enough to wear itself on its sleeve. This is the brazen version the rich get up to. This is it writ large.

And what this says about the rich is very telling. Very telling that this was something they were all part of. That it spread in their ranks because the psychology of the rich is the psychology of a taker. I could keep building this whole argument. All of it is implicitly woven together.

This is a glance into arch villainy. I don’t know what else to call it. Cruelty for the thrill. They want to be loved and feared.

These are at least the plates I am spinning in my head when I think about all this and what it says about everything.

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[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't pull Elmo and Big Bird into this, they're working class.

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Canonically they are children so if they were on the list I'd be worried they were victims.

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In addition to what's already said by other posters, I also think that because these ghouls are so rich and already have everything they could have in life, they end up looking for what's left to own and exploit.

Things like drug fueled mansion parties with lots of women to take advantage of, stops being enough. When there's nothing else left to own, and all other types of exploitation have been pushed to their maximum, they have to seek out something more extreme to scratch that itch, like a porn addict who becomes desensitized and has to seek out more extreme material.

Eventually what's left are the types of exploitation that are considered the most taboo in society.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

kelly Linked(Epste)in

[–] Fossifoo@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Looking forward to "temporarily embarrassed pedophile" becoming the new lib mainstream.

[–] unaware@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] puppygirlpets@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

there are many reasons that people molest children and paedophilia is only one of them. when it's a club of rich fucks it's likely to be a "the rules don't apply to us" thing or a thrill for breaking a strong taboo and not necessarily them being specifically attracted to children