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What if that Zoomer stereotype of not being to maintain computer folders was an app?
this post was submitted on 21 Nov 2025
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i dont understand why this is a zoomer stereotype, all my life i've had like a tmp/ folder and a dl/ folder and even i dont know what the difference is, and i mainly find things in them by listing files by their date.
i'm an early millennial.
Assumptions that they only know how to use a phone/tablet rather than a desktop/laptop computer, I guess. I feel like I hear most of it from their former teachers/university professors.
yeah, i guess there's a difference between not being familiar with folders and not using folders properly
More than that they've never used a non-computerized desktop. The metaphor has lost it's usefulness because we have generations skipping the rite of putting paper into folders and going straight to devices that are hostile to user agency.
Gee wiz, I truly am a zoomer. As I was reading your comment, I thought "what the fuck is a non-computerized desktop?"
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Kids for the past decade plus go through school using google drive. Highly searchable. Teachers believe that kids are "tech savvy" because they know how to use tablets. So the entire process of teaching kids how to save, organize, find, and open files is gone. There are zero consequences for not knowing it either. But collages have noticed this trend for some time. Professors asking for project folders and discovering their students have no idea what they mean. It's not universal, but when the windows monopoly ended for schools, it meant kids were learning a whole different way to manage files.
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It's impossible to find anything on google because it's all vector search nonsense now.
What is vector search - eli5? I seriously have no idea.
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I'd still love a Hexbear's eli5.
I googled and - no surprise - the results were shit. I found a super-positive Reddit post in r/LearnMachineLearning that makes me think that vector search is a perfect match for hellworld. Also - "LearnMachineLearning" sounds like some Black Mirror shit.
This article is my try to dive into how vector search is revolutionizing AI’s ability to discover patterns, relationships, and insights at unprecedented speed and precision. By moving beyond rigid keyword matching, vector search enables machines to understand context, infer intent, and retrieve results with human-like intuition.
I don't know if anybody cares - but there are coding examples.
You can turn unstructured data like strings and images into vectors, which are 1D arrays: [1, 4, 8, 2, ... 8, 3.5, 9, 1] is a vector. Each number in a vector is basically a score of how close that original data is to a semantic concept. A picture of an apple and the string "apple" both score 1 on Apple and highly on Fruit and a zero or something on Mineral. Vectors can be any length really, so any one vector can define the proximity of original data to tens of thousands of concepts. An orange scores high on Fruit, but not Apple, so in a vector search, if you search fruit you'll get both apples and oranges. If you search Florida fruit, you'll get oranges but not apples. Search pie recipe, apples show up but oranges don't. And so on. Vector searches will retrieve things that are semantically related.
You fill vectors by training computers to sort the data themselves. You train the computers by exploiting tens of thousands of third world workers to manually categorize information and double check the computers until the success rates are high enough from the automated categorizers to fire the workers.
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He doesn't have his own Dewey Decimal System for organizing files on the computer.
Beauchamp Binary System
There are of course absolutely no privacy-friendly FOSS apps that allow you to tag your files with searchable keywords without the need to feed them into neural networks in Ba Sing Se
there are no neural networks in ba sing se
while this is a funny comment, my cat died and so i've been rewatching avatar and my god the earth kingdom stuff is straight up sinophobia, jesus christ, cant westerners ever be normal?
I mean the entire thing is just based on western stereotypes about asian cultures... and inuits? For some reason? Sorry to hear about your cat btw, that sounds like it's tough.
it's making me rewatch avatar for the third time, which probably shows the seriousness of the matter. but it's ok, she lived 14.5 years and enjoyed nearly all of that time.
i broke this morning, and i'm probably getting another cat by sunday....
almost 15 years is long by cat standards, sounds like she had a long and full life. That's as close to making it as you get in cat terms.
yeah, and it was her time, but it's still incredibly fucked up how i get to decide when the vet kills my cat for me.... i dont think there's a better way (short of not having pets at all), but it's still super fucked up
like, my cat was super tired at the end and had aggressive cancer (1 month from normal to ... dying). still.
sorry i'm dumping this here, i guess it had to come out sometime....
It's fine, you had a companion for almost 15 years and no longer do, that is an enormous emotional toll. Especially given that you had to make the very hard choice to end their life. I do not blame you for being affected, and wanting to share is only natural.
and inuits? For some reason?
I think it doesn't really go any further than "we want people to live at the poles, who lives closest to our poles?" There are plenty of coastal and tropical and desert and plains and mountain dwelling Asian cultures, but not much in the way of polar ones lol
There's a bunch of Siberian people who are pretty polar. But yeah, most people probably associate the term "Polar" more with Inuits and Aleuts than they do the various people of Siberia.
Can't be stereotyped for a cartoon's worldbuilding if Yankees haven't even heard of you [taps temple]
There are plenty of coastal and tropical and desert and plains and mountain dwelling Asian cultures, but not much in the way of polar ones lol
Chukchis, Sireniks, Yuits, Kereks, Yukaghirs, Evenks, Evens, Nenets, Enets, Nganasans, Yakuts, and Dolgans:
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If I can't run it on a potato while hidding 1km down in a cave in Siberia, I don't want it.
Miss me with this SaaS shit.
But then Abhay wouldn't get a boat load of VC funding, and we wouldn't want that to happen, would we?
Searching for content instead of names? Just use grep or rg. $8M please.
As long as we can afford it, all new users receive 100GB of free cloud storage.
not for very long, then
I let everything sit in Dowloads on my computer for months and then do a Big Sort and it's kinda fun to organize all your files
This is what I do with video game ROMs and music files on a monthly basis. And then I very lamely shout to the world in triumph when I've organized my digital music library via Musicbee once again.
I spent 2 hours at work yesterday reorganizing the walk in fridge to work with our new menu effectively and cause we were short someone the day before and it becomes a mess whenever im off. I fucking love organizing stuff. Spending 2 hours downsizing shit, getting rid of shit we couldn't use anymore and placing it all in logical places is what my brain loves to do, it feels satisfying to finish and see how much better things look and everyone else at my work is so fucking bad at it that it makes me seem amazing
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I have folders named "desktop crap MM-DD-YY" inside other folders with the same naming convention and I like it. Finding old shit is like being an archaeologist for a minute.
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grep "dog"
iphone photos app already does this and while it’s convenient once in a while, i could also live without it tbh
The world is in the middle of a data explosion. We’re generating and using more files than ever, but the apps we’re using to manage our files don’t even understand them.
thunar doesn't need to understand wtf a jpeg is, it just needs to show me where it is and tell gwenview to open it when i click on it
It’s time for file browsers to become useful. When you search for “dog”, it should show you content with dogs in it, not just files with “dog” in the name!
no it shouldn't, that would use a ridiculous amount of system resources for no real benefit
When you want to edit, convert, summarize, or organize a file, your browser should do that, too.
no it shouldn't, you have other programs for that
no it shouldn't, that would use a ridiculous amount of system resources for no real benefit
Not to mention that a meta tagging system would be way more useful and efficient with the added bonus of not letting a tech bro have even more access to my shit.
But how else are you gonna send all the data on your system over the internet to an llm to "sort"?
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iOS already does this, and also through a local model. Is kinda useful with the massive photo collections everyone has these days, and you don’t have to give them all your data.
all the investment and BS talk aside, yeah i guess it would be nice to be able to do content based search, it's just that it's not worth the cost right now and it has to be local only. i don't want to share my private files with no fucking third party especially some cloud based AI tech startup. absolutely fuck right off.
Send this start up idea to anyone you know in cybersecurity to instantly see the light leave their eyes.
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“Hey poors! You know this thing you have no problem with? Well us rich folk thing there’s something wrong with it! So we’re fixing it! You’re gonna use AI now! You’re welcome!”
It's going to be ai slop that doesn't work right, this is like reinventing the road.
When you search for “dog”, it should show you content with dogs in it, not just files with “dog” in the name!
In reality you're lucky if it can actually find every file with dog in the name, I have an extra program for that lol
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First sentence had me thinking this was gonna be a onion like joke about needing to improve the file explorer with AI
plz give us access to all your files bro, we just want to make it work better for you, plz bro, trust me bro
We'd be better off giving that money to HaikuOS and improving BeFS.
Isnt this already possible with the tech that makes like those annotations for images on the web for blind people? Just extend that into images that you allow and boom, now you can use semantic search to give importance to words and properly search it. Does this person really need millions?
"Let us upload your entire hard drive to Sam Altman goon cave"
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