Slop.

like I'm not even saying the texts inherently must be fabricated, I just have to critique this sentiment on principle

are we pretending that "Trans-Loving Terrorist Radicalized Into Killing Patriot By Exposure To 'Transgender Ideology' Despite Wishes Of Family And Friends And Even Their Deviant Lover" is not a useful narrative for the state to push if it wanted to further marginalize trans people and had the foresight to read as slightly more plausible than "Evil Scheming Transgender Brainwashes Young Man Into Violence For Deviant Trans Purposes."

are we pretending that the prerogative of the feds on the outset wasn't 'how can we tie this back to transgender'

For a terminally online 22 year old he sure does text a lot like a 60 year old federal agent

The messages look so stilted. The way they talk is off in a way I can't put my finger on.

I am not even sure how many layers of irony Liv is on, but I'm pretty sure it's more than me, and I am in intensive care for chronic irony poisoning.

They are torturing the shooter to get him to say this is all true as we speak.

Lib-left podcasters : "umm ACAB i hate cops BUT the state guys cant fake this cuz lying is illegal"

Hitlermagaacolytecatturrd: "sounds like a script"

everyone's trying to do textual analysis on the tone and language used in these messages, but to me it does just sound like an overly formal autistic Utah Mormon who has idiosyncratic speech patterns. i'm not saying that means they're authentic, but people acting like a 45 year old federal agent is any more likely to cook up "my love" and "my old man...my old man" is not familiar with the illiteracy of people in general. normies of no age younger than like 70 would use these phrases, and even then, they wouldn't be common.

don't interrogate your partner about their crimes in writing online please. If somebody you know or love tries to start to admit to doing something, get them to shut up immediately and talk to you in person. Or better yet, shut up forever and never mention it to anyone.

Once again repeating my point that it's weird people talk about these major court cases as if the prosecution is 100% correct. I sure hope no one on Hexbear dot net sits on the jury of a significant case involving the state lmao

It seems pretty contrived and too perfect, like it was made with a check list of all the important points necessary to charge him. Live updates about trying to get the rifle etc even though roomie isn't freaking out or telling him to be safe. Maybe he was yapping so much because he was under extreme stress and unexpectedly shocked by what he had just done so he was reaching out or something but that doesn't make the roommate's responses less abnormal in this situation.

This could be some kind of secret compromise with him, he gets life instead of the death penalty and they promise to leave Lance alone in exchange for him not revealing he was a groyper shitposter who simply kept that separate from his more normie gamer friends. Play up some pro-trans sentiment because manufacturing a connection to antifa where there was none could fuck everything up. They could and would do shit like this to prevent an absolute meltdown between the far right factions which is kinda already happening.

Or also very likely Tyler was basically lost, clueless, good boy character from republican family with default settings, lived in a conservative bubble all his life, ended up getting realitypilled due to a relationship and suddenly realized that some people are really also people with feelings etc and some agitators are actually dangerous extremists and fascists so he pulled an incredibly naive but principled John Brown. He's more like the only sane and responsible gun owner of America in this version and everyone else is just desensitized as fuck to polite extermination rhetoric and enacted legislation making it happen. This is almost a standard profile of lone wolf political assassins of conscience but people love conspiracy shit too much to remember Leon Czolgosz etc.

Then again transphobia wasn't Charlie Kirk's primary grift and I'm not aware of him pushing that lately, Matt Walsh is the head transphobe so this version doesn't fully fit either. Both versions could likely be total copium and the whole thing probably seems strange because everyone is completely alienated and can't imagine violent, self destructive but altruistic acts without reading a ton of theory first or being a rabid neonazi. Maybe it's an answer to the question "what would you do if you were in Nazi Germany in 1933" by someone who wasn't political enough to seek organized action and wait for the conditions to be right first and all the usual crap that paralyze the left.

The only evidence that the person is a "chaser" is that they have a trans girlfriend. Are we to draw the conclusion that any person in a relationship with a trans woman is by default a chaser? Because that's literally just saying transphobes/terfs are right.

Yeah like, I mostly buy the narrative/haven't seen evidence for any of the conspiracy theories going around, but this particular document is so fucking sus, and the lack of timestamps or anything else to go on to corroborate or add context, means there's really no way of knowing atm if its real, and the feds absolutely have obvious motive and ability to fabricate this.

unfortunately not thaaat rare livagar L

"my love" is he Briiish?

the roommate sounds more 'normal', like how people speak on texts. Robinson however has perfect capitalization, good grammar. i almost suspect LLM but idk, doesn't sound zoomer talk, but again, he is a nerd.

maybe the last message sounds a bit more normal but rest are really sus.

ChatGPT-ass transcript. Reads nothing like his discord messages but could still be real, I guess.

Sure seems awfully convenient for it to match the narrative they were trying to build since before they had any real evidence.

Lib Agar

If it was fabricated the government could make it way worse for whatever narrative they want to push. It it's inauthentic, my best guess would be a pre planned text message exchange to absolve his partner of any involvement in the killing. Fully putting it on himself.

People don't talk like this