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How about you fuck off back to Stupidpolgrad, jackass? Thanks for even further showing your ass, as if the 'grotesque' statement didn't. Also, I said transmisogyny, not transphobia, do you even know what transmisogyny is?

Yes, at bare minimum I agree with you - I am bigender myself, by the way, though definitely a trans woman first - but overall when picturing the whole situation it really seems to me like she was partially in the closet, the fact that she was in the military and was raised in a weird christian cult makes that idea, at least to all the trans women I've personally told about this, even more clear and obvious.

Obviously there's no smoking gun, but I think there is more than enough reason to come to that conclusion on her. Some of the strong pushback here is probably because, even if she was just genderqueer or non-physically-transitioning bigender or whatever, it seems very clear to me that most of the people (not you) arguing strongly against this in this thread are never calling to call her a her or call her Lilly and are arguing this point as an excuse to continue using he/him and 'Aaron' exclusively. Whether they know that or not, as internalized transmisogyny is quite rampant.

One can engage in transphobic behavior without being transphobic as a person. As I said, internalized transmisogyny is not uncommon.

For the record, every single trans woman I've ever told about Lilly's accounts and situation immediately identified her as a trans woman that was partially in the closet, as is very common for us especially when we're in situations where we cannot feasibly transition.

Trans people are very capable of being transmisogynistic - it's not like internalized misogyny is very uncommon, so why would internalized transmisogyny be?

This point means nothing and is frankly over aggro and comes off as telling on yourself. She didn't say everyone was transphobic, she said they need to do self crit, which is not in any way the same thing.

I literally referenced the primary source that was posted on this very thread, you condescending moron, and it's worse than what the linked article says.

Have you read it?

This is a policy that flies in contravention to equal language rights and the actual law also lessens the states obligation to protect minority languages, by defining digitization and preservation as sufficient 'protection'.

And I'm sure it does but that doesn't mean this change is actually a good thing - robust education in Mandarin (and I'm sure most technical terms in the minority languages are loan words anyway) can solve the problem you're discussing, whereas every single time a policy like this was implemented it had the effect of directly discouraging the continued use of the language over generations.

Glad to see that evidently the Hexbear party line is that colonial policies that destroy the cultures of Indigenous groups are actually Cool and Based as long as it's a Chinese Person doing it.

This website is such a joke with the China circlejerking sometimes, come on, the reflexive defense of everything China does has gone way too far when we have a thread like this where people aren't even investigating the law in question and arguing about how it's 'not that bad' or whatever to actively regress in policy towards linguistic minorities and take away schooling in local languages that already existed.

Yeah I'm +2ing all of this, although I'll note I have faced the behavior described from other TMA Non-binary people. Mostly, as indicated, rabidly gender abolitionist or accelerationist ones - that is in fact the primary reason I've never been able to hold to that position.

~~And frankly their theory is a half baked pamphlet that doesn't make sense but that probably counts as sectarianism.~~

I'm not even binary anymore (though I reject the label of non-binary for this among other reasons) but I'm never going to be able to fuck with views that literally led to me being pressured into detransition. Never.

Hopefully this place will be less Like That over time though I'll admit to my hopes being low given how much the mod team used to push gender accelerationism.

Yeah the vibes were fucking rancid. To be quite honest given the subject of discussion it pretty much proved to me that - like most spaces that are rabidly gender accelerationist or abolitionist - there is, like Serano was saying, quite often a bias against binary trans women here.

I was really feeling the women of women thing having everyone in that thread imply my experiences weren't real or didn't matter while they were doing the exact same behavior that Serano was pointing out and that I had experienced of casting being non-binary as being Superior and More Virtuous and Woke than being a binary trans woman - for it's always trans women that get that shit, never trans men, because it's just a manifestation of transmisogyny.

I personally would not say so. The exorsexism in the book is all pretty typical of the time in which it was written, and it is regardless an extremely important book for articulating the theory of transmisogyny.

People in the older thread being referred to also heavily overplayed how exorsexist it actually was, in my opinion, because they refused to acknowledge some of the things Serano was talking about were factual extant problems within the 'queer community'.

This doesn't suggest an inherent issue with the material itself, though.

I have been groomed as a minor myself and I assure you that the art wasn't some magic key that made it possible, and that it was ultimately as always my personal relationship with my groomer that made the process work. Banning lolicon stuff won't fix that, and given how many survivors of grooming I've met who end up into it or adjacent things that are usually also banned by these laws, seem to me that it'd end up hurting far more victims than it helped.

As far as I could tell 99.9% of lolicon art (I do not approve of the term drawn CSAM unless it's a drawing based off a real child) had absolutely no association with actual predators at all and was just drawn by and for weird weebs anyway.

There was a lot of shouting down of anyone who disagreed in threads on that subject, so I'm glad to see things moving in a more reasonable direction.

I stopped using the site for a while and have still never engaged with the trans community here because of how I've been treated by other trans people on this website simply for raising my own experiences in discussions on subjects like that stuff - had it implied I was bigoted against trans men, that I wasn't really trans, that I was exorsexist myself, that I was outright fabricating my experiences, etc etc.

So, yeah, glad to see that reasonable discussion is now actually possible.

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In fact, it was the very same thread in which I was treated like that that led to this much better thread's creation. Nice.