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you think the state would do that? just go out there and fabricate evidence? powell-propaganda

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[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

everyone's trying to do textual analysis on the tone and language used in these messages, but to me it does just sound like an overly formal autistic Utah Mormon who has idiosyncratic speech patterns. i'm not saying that means they're authentic, but people acting like a 45 year old federal agent is any more likely to cook up "my love" and "my old man...my old man" is not familiar with the illiteracy of people in general. normies of no age younger than like 70 would use these phrases, and even then, they wouldn't be common.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that said, man, fucking no one believes that this is legitimate. on the one hand you have even lib-left people doing amateur textual analysis, and on the other hand you have even the likes of matt walsh proposing that it's illegitimate to protect the roommate.

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Really shows that political spectacle has replaced television/mass media. Everyone's dissecting this like it's The weekly tv show and we're standing around a watercooler

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

At this point, it's pure spectacle as the other school shooting gets swept under the rug or we have to pretend the totally-not-a-lynching lynching in Mississippi is not a lynching or gestures broadly at the rotting elephant carcass covered in maggots and flies the genocide in Gaza.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

that's a good observation. it's the last thing that everyone is still obliged to pay attention to at least a little.

[–] barrel_of_a_gun@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

yeah the more convincing claim is that it doesnt look like how he typed in his discord messages at all tbh, would be very weird for someone to be more formal and using capital letters while texting vs on the keyboard. also, if these texts were faked by the feds, i guarantee they used an LLM for it, not a 45 year old agent, the trump admin is constantly using them even to fucking make policy like with the tariffs lmao

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it doesnt look like how he typed in his discord messages at all tbh, would be very weird for someone to be more formal and using capital letters while texting vs on the keyboard.

i do that. different formal registers for different media isn't particularly unlikely. for example, when i type hexbear comments on my phone, i don't bother to undo it's automatic capitalization that i generally stylistically forego when typing comments on a physical keyboard.

definitely an LLM if they faked it though, agreed. ain't no way they actually paid a fed to sit there and come up with something.

[–] barrel_of_a_gun@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

tbc i dont actually think these are faked im not 100% consistent in how i type either and analyzing someone's typing is always going to be more of vibe based analysis anyways, but it's an actual possibly weird inconsistency vs a white nerd from mormonsville to have weird quirks in their vocab

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

fair enough, it's definitely a better argument than the vibes-based ones. i personally think it's awfully convenient that the messages just fill every hole in the investigation, and i'm inclined to think the messages are legitimate.

[–] IncensedCedar@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

"my love" and "my old man" are both phrases I've heard used by multiple coworkers or acquaintances in the last week.