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https://xcancel.com/NRA/status/1963993115410198964

Trump got the NRA to come out and oppose his proposal of banning trans people from owning guns. heartbreaking

Will chuds now start attacking the NRA and call them woke? frothingfash

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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hank: "Dale, the NRA is a Washington, D.C.-based organization. Are you telling me you support Washington, D.C.?"

Dale: "...Thaaat's a thinker."

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

Dale: Guns don't kill people, the Government does

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

plenty of unnecessary clarifiers and weasel words in there, and the whole thing is vagueposting without mentioning trans rights

the nra can suck my piss

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

without due process.

I mean, the system is basically trying to make every one of us who isn't a billionaire illegal. So... doubt

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

And there it is.

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm honestly shocked their not siding with Trump.

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump had a quote where he basically said he thought the whole trans people are mass shooters thing was bullshit. His heart isn't really in the transphobia thing, though he's happy to let other people go in on it, which isn't any better.

[–] egg1918@hexbear.net 38 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump during a campaign rally in NC last year:

"You see I'm talking about cutting taxes and people go like that (small clap), I talk about transgender everybody goes crazy! Who would've thought? 5 years ago you didn't know what the hell it was!"

Not that it matters because he is passing anti-trans legislation and is surrounded by transphobic fascists, but it is interesting how he basically just doesn't care.

https://xcancel.com/mtphyb/status/1963445147754287470?t=R-p-AkmYXP5QvMpbmtw_cA&s=19

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Opportunits doing opportunism

I am sorry but trump if funny

Trump had a quote where he basically said he thought the whole trans people are mass shooters thing was bullshit.

Show me

[–] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 3 weeks ago

Law abiding, huh? Sure would be a shame if they made a law that made being trans illegal somehow.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The National RIFLE Association wants to KEEP selling RIFLES??? Who would'a thought?

[–] BioWarfarePosadist@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Nah, they will then support people with certain mental illnesses should be banned and then reclassify "transgender" as a mental illness.

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably easier to make cross dressing an offence again, chuds don't care if 'law breakers' lose rightd

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

In fact they savour it. You should see how much chuds get absolutely horned up when a police does violence on someone. They love it.

[–] Lavender@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure they'll do something easier like making a technicality around changing ID information.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Of course, by some strange alchemy they will never take guns from people with dark triad personalities for whatever reason.

[–] T34_69@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Notice the qualifiers: sweeping gun bans; arbitrarily strip; law-abiding citizens; without due process.

[–] NinjaGinga@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

this

Not that statements count for shit anyway, but making qualifiers now shows the real intent

[–] T34_69@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Lets them maintain a sheen of credibility when they cop out on it later. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

Fucking exactly. Quit beating around the bush and commit to what you're saying. Trans people deserve the right to have guns. Say the word "trans". It's not contagious.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

There's a NRA member survey from 2023 I think that found fairly broad support for trans gun rights. The interesting part is that the 60+ age bracket was better about it than the 16-30 age bracket by something like 10-20 points. I'll try to find a link later to the details.

e: https://web.archive.org/web/20250720181642/https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/lodge/nra-member-survey/

Fewer than 22% of National Rifle Association members surveyed believe a person who has undergone gender reassignment surgery should have their firearms taken from them. 28% of respondents are undecided on the issue.

The age group most supportive of trans-gun rights was the oldest segment of our survey. Just 18% of those 60 years old and older believe gender-reassignment is grounds for firearm confiscation. 29% of the the 18-30 year old respondents felt gender-reassignment surgery recipients should have their guns taken away.

So only a 11% difference, but still interesting.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Gen Z are the new boomers, aren’t they?

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

Well the ones that are NRA members at least.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel like the boomer NRA members are the real purists. They genuinely buy all the NRA propaganda and don't just see it as a convenient lobby for other chud shit

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like the boomer NRA members are the real purists

Gotta try hard to find some ideological conviction here.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's literally lead in vapes.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

That explains a lot.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So only a 11% difference, but still interesting.

I think this shows that the older folks are just genuinely sincere about their beliefs in gun rights. It's the younger terminally online people that are insincere and ready to latch onto whatever if it beats down their opponents.

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Thing is, that's not Transgender, just Transsexual.

Ideally there wouldn't be a distinction in the legal sense, but for example Cuba had to amend its laws to allow trans people to get corrected legal IDs. The old law required sex reassignment surgery, but this eventually became due to the US blockade reducing supplies for non-urgent ops.

Many people who we'd consider brutal transphobes may be accepting of trans people who have undergone SRS (something seen in a recent spat between Reform UK politicians) the same people are denying rights for people to obtain those surgeries, thus keeping them in a class of folks being slandered as "delusional cross-dressers". (And, just as a note, not all trans people want SRS, but many have to just to obtain legal status!)

The distinction has been made to make the argument to deny the rights of trans people easier: If we claim anyone without SRS but is Trans are mentally ill, we can deny them civil liberties that would be harder to restrict if we had to acknowledge that our idea of gender being "your private dangly bits" falls apart if we let any of them get surgeries that modify those bits.

It's a bit like how black people and other minority groups can some acceptance under the whote supremacist state if theh accrue political capital and wealth. The system, that doesn't wish to admit that nonwhites are capable of social mobility, simply focusses on denying rights to the poorer section of these communities who are thus easy targets for the "fbi crime statistics" gang.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

This is good point to highlight. This dynamic of "passing privileges" is definitely part of the recuperation of radicalism back into the liberal status quo. Much like "model minority" and other similar processes that coerce people to contort themselves in the hope of acceptance as "one of the good ones".

There's a NRA member survey from 2023 I think that found fairly broad support for trans gun rights. The interesting part is that the 60+ age bracket was better about it than the 16-30 age bracket by something like 10-20 points.

that's concerning

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

i didn't know weasels could say "sweeping"

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

cereal2 2025 is so weird

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

NRA sees an opportunity to gain opportunist liberal supporters who will jump on board with them as an anti-Trump thing without any significant loss of their existing supporters who don't support the org because of Trump. They supported the org before Trump because they sincerely support owning guns and they will continue to do so when Trump is gone.

They see only potential to gain by taking this position.

[–] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not even if it’s to suppress the political expression of an oppressed minority?

[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

is there any mass political expression by trans people? the nra has always been a glorified cartel; seems like trans people don't threaten the capitalists the way the panthers did

Oh definitely no. It’s just been backlash to nothing to shut down a tiny minority. I would give them all gundams.

seems like trans people don't threaten the capitalists the way the panthers did

that is obvious

[–] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

Banning guns for a specific group shows that gun control is possible and the politicians just didn't want to do it. I think the NRA understand that and it would lead to greater gun control efforts further down the line

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

The NRA is only worried a few white cis guys get got in the process.

they'll relent once the bill gets amended to their liking.

Uh, based NRA?