still better than ios lol
still better than ios lol
Yeah android has termux, termux is amazing, I run emacs in it and have all the power of org mode on my phone!
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Yeah I am thinking of just don't care about phones. Just the cheapest second hand thing I can get for calls, sms, ssh, vlc.
Maps would be nice, OsmAnd crashes frequently (out of memory?) on the tablet I got second hand.
it's pretty weird that no company seems to have thought to just make a cheap minimal smartphone with a big battery and removable back cover, running a feature phone-esque modified android
feature phones just aren't really feasible to use for most people these days, but that doesn't mean the only alternatives have to be phones that try to wow you with 5 billion gigapixel AI enabled cameras
We need custom hardware imo.
Where would you even find a phone without a locked bootloader to even try this on other than a pixel, because, a google phone, to degoogle, really ? lol!
Interesting you should ask. It turns out that LineageOA has an entire page giving you options of compatible devices...
Volla phone has unlocked bootloader and ships with android or linux, some even have nativ dualboot
I have fairphone, it comes with unlockable bootloader. Don't get the new ones tho, they suck. 3+ was the last good model before they drank the koolaid and removed the headphone jack.
Nah, /e/os and GrapheneOS rule!
I'm an /e/os user and all I can say is even though it sucks the least among its competition, it STILL SUCKS! Not to downplay the immense effort put in by the devs and maintainers of course. Providing a privacy-respecting phone OS to ordinary people isn't just a good deed, it's necessary for a vibrant and diverse digital society. But still, we can all strive for better.
Define, "sucks"
The complaints I see about custom OS the most:
- Bank or payment apps don't work due to Play Integrity API (blame Google)
- Some other Google apps don't work correctly (well... duh)
- Obscure functionality that is usually overlooked or intentionally ignored, but is a complete dealbreaker for that user.
My banking app works on GrapheneOS. It didn't even need any of the compatibility settings to be turned. My experience has been smoother than the Android shipped with the device. I barely use Google apps apart from yt and haven't found any obscure issues yet. Is GrapheneOS just really good compared to others or did I get lucky with my bank and the features I use?
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GrapheneOS has been working flawlessly for me for years. Highly recommend!
Just one problem. Both are still dependent on Google and Android-based. How sustainable is that security model when a company has the say-so over whether you get to flash your custom firmware next year, or the next year, or maybe the year after that?
Right! just look how locked down android has become since the early/mid 2000's.
You don't even have full control of your sd card anymore (if you're lucky enough to actually have a phone with an sd slot.)
Check out crDroid. I do not know how it's like to daily drive it, but afaik it's highly customizable.
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Tfw your Phone has no ROM and the stock one is trash.
I am currently considering switching to a 3rd custom rom on my xiaomi since both of the ones I have tried while better than the stock one by miles, seem to have no activity surrounding them (one was last updated almost 2 years ago and the one I am currently on has been updated in october).
Just sucks that its notsuch a mainline phone rhat gets lota of custom ROM support.
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Gabe please make Linux mobile phone.
idk I enjoy LineageOS
I want this too but I don't get how you can call something like LineageOS dogshit.
It works perfectly.
I'm a desktop user mostly but my phone feels like the more polished experience
i maintain that my pixel running lineage with microg and magisk and some other stuff is about the best experience you can have on a phone
It works with 0 issues 97% of the time and never annoys me, and i have basically complete control over the device.
For sure. One or two super paranoid banking apps but literally everything else works great with microg.
I've even ditched microg a few years back.
Depending on your usage it might not be an option, but for me it didn't make any difference
Sounds like OP was using an unnofficial miui port or smth like that
But Linux for mobile exists, it is just not popular. For instance you can install Ubuntu Touch on certain phones.
This one right here, officer! They did it!
Yeah, like the Nexus 5. Not anything you'd want to actually use today.
I looked into Ubuntu Touch last week as a potential alternative to Graphene on my Pixel 9.
The most recent Pixel it supports is the 3.
So Graphene it is then...
Graphene so far is the slickest one.
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If only Arch Linux ARM existed... ;(
I don't expect Arch Linux ARM to have wider support than Ubuntu Touch or postmarketOS.
The later 2 projects aim to support Android devices, while (based on my understanding) Arch Linux ARM mainly targets SBCs (single board computers), like Raspberry Pi.
Arch Linux ARM nowadays, probably, also serves as a base for Asahi, but this does not help with Android device compatibility.
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Costs so much though. Thinking about what a phone even needs to do for me, what other handheld devices could work instead?
Steamdeck perhaps? Then a brick phone for calls/sms. Not too sure what would work as a lower spec and cheaper alternative to a Steamdeck and runs Linux though.
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Phosh has a great UI, I genuinely love it -- I'm just not thrilled by my phone's battery life when running any mobile linux
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