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Summary

As Trump’s erratic tariff policy rattles global markets, investors and financial analysts are questioning his mental fitness.

Tom Lee of FSInsights said macro fund managers fear the White House is “not acting rationally, but rather on ideology,” with some even wondering if “the President might be insane.”

Lee placed full blame on Trump, saying his decisions lead to a “binary outcome,” though they often lack logic.

Market volatility surged after Trump raised tariffs on China to 125% before having to abruptly pause most tariffs.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 176 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I am genuinely fucking baffled at how many people INSIST on treating orangeboi as a rational actor.

He’s not. He never was. He wasn’t the first time around, either - it’s just that there were enough non-insane people around to stop him from doing what he’s doing now. And he’s doing it now because he got rid of all the non-insane people.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I figured most of these people knew what they were doing when they supported Trump, but somehow after a decade of his bullshit (and really, all the decades before that too), they're still surprised he's a fraud?

Or are they just angry that they weren't in the pump and dump group chat that Trump is obviously running?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You don't have to be smart when you're born with a silver spoon like most of these fucks are.

Notice that the actual first generation wealthy aren't the vocally supportive ones. It's the generationally wealthy, the ones that didn't actually make the break into wealth, the ones lucky enough to be born into it.

There's a few exceptions, but they're the ones advocating most vocally for the heinous shit, not just the money making shit.

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Everyone with half a brain knows he's dumber than rocks, they put him there to be the puppet-king who lifts restrictions and rules so business can literally rape us all to death. That goal is not going as smoothly as they imagined so now they're pointing out the lack of clothes on the emperor.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Exactly.

He's not insane until rich dude's yacht money and 401ks start tanking.

Before that diagnosable criteria, he doesn't meet the DSM V threshold for magalomanical genocidal fascist.

'Results inconclusive'

EDIT 'magalomaniacal' was a typo, but it fits, so it stays. Hopefully it'll be in thr DSM 6.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 66 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Headlines like this, man. On one hand, good, I always like to see people thinking clearly and basing their thoughts on, you know, observations of the world.

On the other hand, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE? It took until April 2025 for them to fear that he’s not acting rationally but rather on ideology? And these are people who see themselves as fit to manage other people’s money!

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A certain group of people care about literally nothing other than Line Go Up.

Line did not go up, therefore they want blood.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s the unfortunate truth. He can destroy lives, destroy our standing in the world, destroy our natural resources and climate, and betray to his heart’s content. But once he starts messing with the slope of rich people’s lines, that’s when I can see his own side get ready to remove him from office.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Based on the recently circulated video of him bragging about how much money his inner circle made by buying the dip before he announced the tarrif pause, it seems not all rich people were left in the dark.

I'm not informed enough on the finer points of market manipulation law, but it certainly quacks like a duck.

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[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

if there's one thing that keeps getting proven again and again, it's that business majors are generally quite dumb. They can't understand anything unless you can put it in terms of money, so this really is the first time they're realizing there's a problem.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Even if you put it in terms of money, they'll often remain willfully ignorant if the truth hurts their egos. Somewhere deep down, there's a terrifying suspicion that they're frauds who produce nothing of value.

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[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 63 points 1 week ago

They only are caring now because they're losing money

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Very rapey. Very on-brand.

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Since 2015 people have been saying it. The best people like psychologists and his cousin like Mary and anyone else who actually spent time with him and survivors of abuse by similar personas and the survivors of his actual rapes and sexual violence. Many people, the best people, everyone was talking about it.

The worst is yet to come case however low it gets, this little fuck will dig to go lower. Like a home invasion where he fucks your wife, head fucks your daughter, sodomizes your son, kills your dog, eats your cat, shits in fridge, etc. Things will keep getting worse cause he has zero self awareness.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's not so much that he's insane as it is that he knows so very, very little that he's incapable of telling good advice from bad advice. He sees all advice as being of equal value, so he bases his decisions on how much the other person likes him.

Example: All the tariff bullshit seems to have come from a single source, Peter Navarro. Whose main source for tariff effectiveness is a guy named "Ron Vara", an anagram of "Navarro".

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a64411833/maddow-origins-trump-international-tariff-idea/

If Trump knew the first thing about, well, anything, he'd reject Navarro out of hand. He doesn't.

[–] Australis13@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately Trump isn't alone in that regard - quite a lot of people reach adulthood lacking critical thinking and the ability to actually discern what is or isn't a reliable and useful source of information. Add to that the propaganda machine of media empires like Murdoch's and it's no wonder people buy Trump's inane ramblings.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago

It only took them a decade, minimum, to figure it out, huh? Truly, the greatest minds amongst men.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

Might? Might??

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Depends on your perspective, I guess. If his objective was to manipulate the market more than at any other time in history while simultaneously destroying three decades of progress between two of the largest countries, and one of the largest federation of countries in the entire world then I would say he's been outrageously successful.

If you mean anything else, then no. He hasn't been. But I can't wait for the MAGA crew to get in here to tell me how tariffs are actually good and how they strengthen an industry which no longer exists in the country.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's no need to worry .... everyone knows he's insane already

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[–] Australis13@fedia.io 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're only worried about this now?! These are supposed to be observant people who manage large sums of money... How can they be that oblivious to Trump's modus operandi?! Even in his first term there was obvious evidence that he never matured beyond childhood and had a tenuous grip on reality.

[–] whirlpoolbrewer@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

These are people who come from wealthy families and spent their whole lives paying tutors to help them cram just enough to get their degree. They had family friends working at big companies who hired them based on who they know not qualifications. They go to expensive bars and clubs together and all that matters is who you know and how wealthy and well known your family is.

That is who the trump family is, and it describes a large portion of these financial institutions. I'm citing Gary Stevenson as my source for this.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Malignant narcissist with strong sociopathic tendencies. This has literally been known for years.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Might be? LOL.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Anyone actually being observant has already come to that conclusion long, long ago.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Fund managers worry Trump "might" be insane

Fixed the title

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago

Welcome to 10 years ago...

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Question 47 (pick one):

Who’s going to survive the Reality Show at the End of the Universe?

A. Financial elite.

B. Xtra-Big Tech.

C. A core national culture of preparation against rogue governments.

D. A paycheque to paycheque 99% having their days, weeks, months, and futures ruined.

E. A, B, and C.

F. The world economy.

G. Literally just Elon and his sperm.

H. Nobody.

I. Blame Canada.

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[–] Flemmy@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago
[–] Zier@fedia.io 11 points 1 week ago

He was born insane. That's why he is a psychopathic con man criminal fascist.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Might be ? He is.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

Other financial experts, including JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Diamond, have similarly assessed that Trump’s plan has pushed the U.S. to the brink of a recession.

They got his surname wrong. It's Dimon.

[–] KingOogaBooga@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Might?? Might?? I believe a number of healthcare professionals have chimed in on his mental state.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He's not insane; he has dementia.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 13 points 1 week ago

I think it could be both

[–] intelisense@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's not insane, he's evil.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

you can be both

[–] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's not insane. He's an idiot.

[–] Likwidkat@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

He can be both

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

it's just that these guys aren't 'in the loop' on when to sell or short and when to buy---like the shitstain and his comrades are.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] philycheeze@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

They aren’t mutually exclusive.

Both and more. He's an insane, idiotic, egotistical, megalomaniacal, bitter, bigotted, petulant narcissist. All of that

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago
[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

He's also a traitor.

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's certainly old enough to be significantly impacted by mental decline. Some have it happen much earlier than others.

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[–] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

By insane I think you meant to say perfectly stable genius

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