ynthrepic

You're being so unnecessarily abrasive and insulting. You're totally misunderstanding or misrepresenting what I'm saying. This is a waste of time.

I'm happy you're passionate. I'm not your enemy. We both probably vote progressive. If you want to have a conversation take a step back and actually read what I wrote.

I'm asking for a coalition of likeminded nations to work together to topple oppressive regimes - call it the UN and include everyone. Ideally, do it non-militarily, but militarily if necessary.

That's what Iran needs and wants. Not whatever the fuck Israel and the US are doing on their own. That's wrong, and it's going to end badly for everyone. On that I hope we can agree.

Chill. Iran funds proxy militias. That's not a violation of international law?

Everyone's fucking ignoring international law in the name of whatever selfish ideology. If you're going to assume my call for a principled approach to international foreign policy is just an excuse for the evils I want to solve... Well fuck mate. Let's just forget about giving any kinds of shit about anyone but ourselves.

Is that the world you want to live in?

No. Obviously not. Sigh.

Depends if you like the place and want to come back again. Or indeed if you have the time to do a good deed for others. Power to you good sir. I try to do the same.

I just don't sweat the small stuff myself. I'm not a vegan or someone with allergies/sensitivities. Power to anyone who wants to be a strict vegan, but I'm just arguing unless you have dietary health reasons, when it comes to minor mistakes, a bit of flexibility just takes the tension away. You aren't a bad person if you're not a perfect vegan every meal and nobody (including yourself) should hold it against you if you just eat what's served, whether a restaurant or friends house.

Who grants executive power? Because it should be able to act military upon resolution from its members if it cannot already. Economic contribution could determine voting weight, and veto rules need to stop single powers blocking resolutions. Veto should either be unanimous among the biggest powers or similarly a collective of the smaller/medium powers.

The goal is for there to be a democratic vote, preferably with proportional voting and protection of voters (so no intimidation). Then mechanisms to support and defend the new government whole it establishes its various mechanisms for decision making. All UN countries required to contribute proportionally according to their economic status.

I know this isn't reality. But this or something like it should be.

Settle down. We need to have principles to live together in a global society. Moral relativism will get us nowhere and rampant individualism is a big reason why capitalism inevitably leads back to authoritarianism. Under capitalism the ends always justify the means.

A progressive world is one in which we have international law and a functioning UN that actually gives a shit about human rights, dignity, and freedoms. That should mean liberating those under oppressive regimes.

I hate nobody in this world more than Trump right now, but the one thing he gets right by accident is that relying on the US to do the dirty work of foreign intervention was never the right move.

The UN collectively should have liberated Iran years ago, and stepped in to keep Afghanistan out of Taliban hands as the US left, and more. These nations screw over their people constantly and they clearly couldn't care less about their neighbors either - case in point Iran attacking its natural allies.

We should work together as a global order to uplift everyone.

With that said, there should be sanctions on the US for the shit they're doing right now, and Israel too of course. For the same reasons. International law doesn't mean anything if it's just might is right.

Oh I certainly agree there are people for whom it's serious. That's not this meme.

A lot of committed vegans I know don't sweat over it if mistakes are made on the "vegan" menu. They advise the staff politely, discarding what they can by hand and eating that they can't. Wasting a meal makes a mockery of the point of being a vegan in many ways.

This teenager possibly gets it. Dad is intentionally overdoing it. There is a lot we can learn about how to do better politics here. Perfection is the enemy of the good.

Edit: Obviously allergies and diseases are a whole other thing. There is a reason getting it right is still very important, but if that's the case nobody is messing around, especially not Dad.

And what do you think will take its place, and how?

That is the most disingenuous interpretation of my comment I can imagine.

You're finding enemies in your own trenches my friend. The genocide in Gaza is absolutely horrific, and I am not making any excuses for it.

I'm just saying we live in a better world now as a whole than years past, recent years notwithstanding. Think mid-Obama as maybe the most hopeful time in recent memory as far as advancement toward the Global Goals was concerned, and yeah I know Obama was still bombing foreign countries in the name of anti-terror and killing innocents to get at Obama Bin Laden.

Do you find any optimism in the world or are you pure nihilism?

~~Kidnapping is an emotionally loaded term which isn't used in journalism. Makes sense.~~ Edit: nah I'm wrong. They'd use it for the actual crime of kidnapping.

I hate this shit. We need media to call a spoon a spoon.

Call lies, lies. "Misinformation", "inaccuracies" "incorrectly said..." Nah fuck that. Trump lied.

What have I started lol.