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I was raised to address strangers and those I wish to show social deference to as "Sir" or "Ma'am". It's a difficult habit to break, as it is deeply engrained.

What is an equivalent gender neutral honorific that is relatively common in English? If I can't break the habit I'd rather have a substitute word to use instead of an awkward pause in the middle of addressing someone

I'd just use Google to ask but I'd rather ask the people directly rather than an AI generated answer based off of Reddit threads

ETA: I suppose if Yessir and Yes'm work, Yesn't could too? Mostly joking… but maybe… πŸ€”

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[–] renormalizer@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Greetings, sentient!

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] foliumcreations@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I've seen enough posts related to etymology or historical use of words where they, either misrepresent the facts to fit a narrative or just make shit up, that I try to look it up my self. I also find etymology fascinating so that helps.

In this case they are absolutely right.

Both Mr and. Mrs,ms are derived from master and mistress (teachers) and both of those words stem from the Latin word Magister.

Edit: fun fact the English verb stick is the same word as the noun stick and comes from the same origin the Germanic word stik which also meant a piece of wood and to pierce/adhere or sharp. But wait it's older than that the Latin word stigare also means pierce. And share the same ancestry, namely indo-european. Turns out we humans have been talking about sticks for a long time.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

...why not just "magister" and avoid a word that already has very strong, current connotations with fantasy?

[–] Specter@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

I mean, mages are pretty cool. πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ

I just call everyone "comrade".

[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Just say Y'all, it pretty much covers that

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago
[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago
[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago

RoboCop "citizen"

[–] prex@aussie.zone 2 points 10 hours ago
[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I like referring to all as boss or chief.

[–] ___@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 minutes ago

Sounds like something a food truck vendor selling spicy shawarmas would say.

Sounds like something a villain's goon would say.

I prefer "fellow human" spoken in a slightly suspicious manner.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 19 hours ago (11 children)

FWIW, Sir is gender neutral in the military β€” this came up in Star Trek Voyager, anyway. Basically if your senior officer isn’t male, they’re sir until they tell you otherwise.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Sir is gender neutral in fictional militaries. Every woman holding a commission I ever encountered was ma'am. Didn't matter the country.

Yes, Star Trek is fictional.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

FWIW, Sir is not gender neutral in Gamestop.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

Sir hasn’t been gender neutral in my military for like 30 years at least

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[–] Drunkdos@lemmy.world 28 points 19 hours ago
[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

Personally, I like "Sir" as in the Star Trek/Orville usage. It did happy things to my brain when the crew on the Orville referred to Commander Kelly Grayson (a cis woman) as "Sir", respectfully referring to her by her proper title as a commanding officer. That was cool. I like the gender neutral "Sir" a lot.

But for casual usage, "Friend" or "Neighbor" is nice. "Hey, neighbor, you dropped this." "Excuse me, friend, lemme reach around you here."

[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Yeah I think "sir" trumps madam because it's professional

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Some of my friends use "yes them" jokingly to replace yes sir/yes ma'am. Certainly not correct in any grammatical way, but it does flow well enough and is kindof funny as long as the person being addressed doesnt mind.

[–] nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

I love this question and the discourse it's spawned!

personally I'll use "friend" if I'm at all acquainted with the other person or bend over backwards to not use one if I'm not. not too hard to leave it out if you try, and like anything becomes second nature pretty quick.

that being said I do use "chef" a lot, especially the phrase "heard, chef!" and I haven't worked in a kitchen in almost a decade lol

[–] CptHacke@piefed.social 18 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Having worked in the retail sector for some time, I quickly learned that appearances are often deceiving after a few embarrassing blunders on my part. I taught myself to call everyone 'my friend'. I had no more problems after that.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I often call people chief. One time I started to say Yessir, realized midway the person I was taking to might not appreciate the label, tried to change lanes and say Yeah, Chief, and wound up saying Yes Chef.

We had a really good conversation about The Bear TV series afterwards

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

I mean chef literally means chief

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I've asked people to call me 'it'. Hasn't happened yet.

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Yesn't, I can do that

I'd accept 'your majesty'

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 5 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I use 'homie' sometimes. It's not always the right option but it's another arrow in the quiver.

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[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Ran into that problem with my enby friend. Specifically in the jokey context, like when a friend asks you to do something and you say β€œYes Sir!” Or β€œYes Ma’am!” in a kind of over the top way. They hadn’t really thought about it either and they were flummoxed too. We wound up with β€œYes Colonel!”

[–] TheFresh16@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago
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