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they let them drown

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[–] mouseirl@lemmy.ml 65 points 3 days ago (4 children)

what the actual fuck is wrong with america

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 37 points 3 days ago

Amerikkkans are a brutal, evil people. It is encouraged in all aspects of life and culture, to be an uncaring, selfish monster towards your fellow human.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 31 points 3 days ago

It's a genocidal country from it's inception. Mass murder is in its bones

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

easier to ask what ISN'T wrong with the US

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago

We'll be here all day

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm not totally clear on what constitutes legal and what constitutes illegal during a conflict, but "sinking the vessel of a country yours just attacked unprovoked and which was at its position under an assumed banner of peace and then not granting quarter to the survivors of the attack, who, it needs to be stressed, were totally unarmed at the time of that attack" should definitely be a war crime if it isn't one currently. Hope everyone on that submarine lands in front of a tribunal.

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 56 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

It's been maddening seeing the completely circular arguments along the lines of "what, so enemy combatants aren't fair game?"

US and Israeli policy is literally:

  1. attack someone

  2. it's okay to attack them because we are currently in combat with them

[–] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago

Arrested for resisting arrest

[–] Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fucking right? People (X users and Redditors so I use the term lightly) are acting like it was a premeditated act by the Iranian Navy, and that they decided to send the ship on some sort of suicidal mission after provoking the US and Israel to attack. I...can't fathom how to even address this, it's exhausting to even consider

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 3 days ago

Whenever I think of Reddit I remember Ghislaine Maxwell was a power mod of like 15 subreddits and the entire site is filled with bots and vomit

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"We knew they were going to counterattack us." So you're agree that there was no threat unless you landed the first punch, right? so-you-agree

Having grown up during the Iraq war, which featured some pretty dumb propaganda, I am going nuts seeing how much lower the floor has gotten.

[–] casskaydee@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This Iraq War propaganda wasn't really different than this. The difference is how ubiquitous and popular it was

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel like there was an attempt at a narrative what with the bin Laden thing and the uranium thing and the "we don't want to have a smoking gun be a mushroom cloud" allusion to a hypothetical Iraqi first strike. Was it all disprovable lies? Sure, but it wasn't this atemporal "we gotta attack them to prevent the counterattack that would result from our attacking them to prevent the counterattack" ourobouros propaganda.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

It's so nihilistic now: everyone knows they're lying, they know that no one believes them, even their supporters know it's all bullshit that won't convince anyone.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

I really don't know why they haven't gone mask off and just started talking about how it is ok because us-foreign-policy yet. That would probably make more Americans approve of the war if they framed it as a "race war" or something.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago

"It's not illegal when we do it" - america

Until that is shown to not be true, it is unfortunately.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 50 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I am hard pressed to think of any other nation that would do something so cowardly and despicable.

I can think of one other.

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

no they're not a nation

they're the 51st state

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

I meant Israel lol

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Spiderman pointing at spiderman

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 33 points 3 days ago

Just when you think they've broken every single norm they could break, THEY FIND ANOTHER!

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

i don't see how iran is coming to the table for peace until they have achieved some level of reciprocity for all of this bridge burning that publicly, objectively humiliates the epstein coalition and it's extremely expensive military leadership.

and i guess the US' has decided to go for state collapse instead of regime change, which seems like a great way to make sure the hormuz gets mined and becomes treacherous for a century.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

Iran basically choose the nuclear option by pre-balkanizing their military. Meaning even if they can get one general/province to come to the table, there are still tons more that won't and will continue to fight.

They could have negotiated with the Ayatollah, but now that he's gone they have to negotiate with dozens of angry, armed, forces. Most of which already have dispersed responsibility within themselves.

Literally no way to stop this since even one group rejecting a negotiation means the whole thing kicks back off.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago

Can't build something better until the parasites finally bite it, but that's going to be messy. agony-wholesome

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 28 points 3 days ago

No excuses for the terror

They gleefully torture and kill

They deserve nothing less than utter annihilation

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago

USN blows up fishermen for no goddamn reason why wouldn't they murder a bunch of unarmed sailors associated with a military?

[–] fox@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hey someone remind me why states take prisoners instead of fighting to the last again

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] fox@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm doing a bit but it's because if you want your own captured soldiers to not be killed or mistreated, you have to not kill or mistreat the captives you take. They're also useful leverage in negotiation: "we'll return 500 PoWs if you'll honor such and such ceasefire" sort of thing.

Also, if you take prisoners your enemy may be more willing to surrender if their position is lost. If they know they're all going to die no matter what, they're going to make sure to hurt you as badly as they can before they go.

Taking no prisoners makes you worse at warfare.

@Grok is this true

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Getting flashbacks to the conspiracy I read online that the usa used the military games in wuhan as an operation to spread covid.

[–] oliveoil@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

I didn't realize there were military games in Wuhan.

US foreign policy is there to keep Americans safe!

Suspiciously blowback shaped elephant in the Indian sea

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

Gonna guess the scum weren't even told to let the Iranians drown, they just did it cause they're scum.

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

Modi literally kowtowed to Netanyahu 2 days before the attacks started. The BJP government will agree with killing Muslims because that's what gets them massive support.