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It might not be uniquely American but imo there is something particularly anglo about the way that politics there is individualized, which leads to family rupture. The system is already perfect, so the problem must be that your grandpa has bad opinions.
It is similar in the UK; the Americans just do it with more razzmatazz.
I can't speak about the US, but i know a lot of people who've gone no contact with their parents at least for several years - partially because the parents are fascists and the kids are trans, but it doesn't end there. That not only means these parents are over the top transphobic, it also correlates massively with these parents already being abusive as hell before the coming out of their child, both to them and their cis siblings.
Chuds just aren't likely to be the kind of parents that are at least safe to be around for their kids. Their world view comes both with an extreme tendency to dehumanize others, venerate cruelty and view children as the property of their parents. If you do not share these views, justifying how they treat you, conflict is inevitable.
These are rarely falling outs over politics alone. There's usually actions behind this as well, typical ways to mistreat kids. Most folks who stop talking to their dad do not just do this because dad has bad takes. But he will say that's the reason because decades of verbal, psychological and physical abuse aren't something he views as even worth mentioning.
It do be funny that most americans are cutting off their families over the question of 199.99% Hitler vs 200% Hitler, admittedly, but this is in no way a unique phenomenon. Of course it's not. Some fucker on Twitter saying otherwise is not evidence.
We wouldn't be disagreeing and cutting people off over political issues if we stopped making the right to exist a political issue.
Politics have gotten extreme enough that it is no longer just differences of opinion and really falls under the category of "fundamental personal values."
It's difficult to engage with others productively when people oppose each other on core values.
Hahahhaha yeah there's definitely no one in Norway who wants to get rid of all the brown people, queers, and communists! Everyone in Norway is just a reasonable, open minded Social Democrat.
Tell your Norwegian family that you think the Roma are human beings too and see how long that family bond lasts
I'm from Norway and I've cut Fellow Countrymen™ out of my life for spreading anti-vax conspiracy theories and Kirk lionization
Why the fuck do Norwegians care about Charlie Kirk?
American cultural hegemony is so weird to consider when it extends to our political theater.
Don't you have your own weirdos? I'd figure you'd have like Brevik stans or whatever.
Not just this but the now-former leader of the Red Youth (youth wing of the furthest left party in parliament) was practically FORCED TO RESIGN for making a singular incredibly tame joke about Charlie Kirk's assassination on TikTok. It was a huge scandal and the Norwegian news media has remained fucking obsessed with everything this 22-year-old has done with her life ever since.
Neeeeei, vi hater dette landet som det faller neeeed………
Fascism is always astroturfed, and our modern day astroturfers are not very good at making bespoke propaganda for each country (well, there are local fascist astroturfers everywhere, but they may not have the kinds of platforms as the international ones)
Last year the heated topic at my family showdown was whether people deserve homelessness and poverty and this year it was whether the state should have the right to sterilize people who have lost guardianship of their children due to neglect.
I tend to stand my ground until they lose interest in debate and I fucking know they will never change their minds on any of it - but it does become a topic that comes up later on as some form of, "Oh, that's a touchy topic we don't talk about that in front of [me]"
Damn right you don't, lmao, this is my domain. While you were passively and uncritically absorbing fascist culture, I studied the blade (systemic critiques of capitalism and their solutions)
It's really annoying when they ask your opinion on something, you say something they disagree with, they have nothing to back up their beliefs, yet they just end the conversation and never change their minds. Family asks me how I feel about landlords. I say they're leeches that contribute nothing and in the future, all tenants and workers should seize the property to live in it directly. "But they provide housing and maintenance!" I explain that the rent is far above the cost of maintenance, and the original price of the housing is irrelevant because the landlord gets to just sell the house eventually to recoup that investment. So they just end the conversation there (no counter argument at all!). No change of mind.
"But they provide housing and maintenance!"
Had a landlord not pay his mortgage for a whole year while I was still paying rent. Didn't find out until cops knocked on my door. I still have the paperwork so I can beat people over the head with it.
My personal favorite "pro-landlord" argument from my family is "but some people want to rent!". Okay, so have social housing for them that rents at cost?
So they just end the conversation there (no counter argument at all!). No change of mind.
Yeah but, think of how much cognitive dissonance they would feel if they accepted what you said as true. We can't have that!!!
It would set a terrible precedent! Because once you label landlords as useless evil leeches, who's next? CEOs? SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS?!!??
Next thing you know their whole worldview comes crashing down 
no counter argument at all!
Because there really isn't one.
People just disregard evidence and it has caused me to lose my mind
My SIL has a terrible habit of starting political arguments and then very quickly jumping to "I don't want to talk about it anymore" the moment it becomes clear that she is in over her head, which is objectively hilarious. Wouldn't want to accidentally hear something that makes her consider the contradictions in her beliefs.
She has very little self-control - it's like a bat signal goes up when she overhears someone talking politics that she disagrees with, she just gets dunked on every single time and still can't help herself.
That's very funny. I try not to be elitist, but honestly it's hard not to judge people's intelligence. It takes a very specific and malicious kind of stupidity to maintain chud beliefs. If you're dumb and a kind/good person you'll be a communist no doubt, or actually apolitical. "Why can't we all just be nice to each other?!" As a genuine question, because it comes so easily and they struggle to imagine how others fail to do it. If you're dumb and an angry little 12 year old, you'll be a chud.
"I'm privileged and I can't imagine what it's like to be either the target or have loved ones targeted by my government." That's what the person is saying.
Willing to bet they enjoy the moral superiority they feel from it too.
norway be like: we so civilized, we care about climate ♥
norway also be like: oil is everything
And how they treat the Sami
of course we're going to eat every fish in the ocean. we're politely debating whether to make the fish extinct or keep some for the next generation 
God European libs are so annoying they're so obsessed with American politics and so smug while being Hitler
usually about toll roads and fishing quotas
The only topic that I've heard Scandinavian politicians talk about is migrants and how they're the bane of Europe and what program they'll put in place to stop them from coming there.
Yes, but there's no debate around the dinner table about that because everyone agrees.
This, this is called the myth of sameness that the local libs are very proud of. Translated to what it actually means is that everyone even remotely leftist, poor or marginalized is othered in a way where the ones with more power can say whatever without pushback, because "we are all equal here".
This is how an upper middle class person can moan about hard times in the same breath with an actually poor person who is starving, example: "Yes it is difficult, we have had to consider not doing three trips abroad yearly" in reply to "I can no longer afford food." This is completely ok socially and if the poor person says something, they are the bad person who is being uncivil and ruining vibes.
Also we should not forget the incredible history of violence that has ensured this "sameness". It's samenes for the upper class.
And those of us who don't agree can't say anything or we get called Putins trolls and believers of Ruzzian missinformation, regardless of the topic. And then the nato-loving very serious and rational people start popping veins in their head.
My parents had one of those “political” marriages so luckily this was actually never part of any of my holiday memories.
Political in this case means interracial in the 1970s. The uncool branches of the family got pruned long before I popped out lol
libs will be like "i hate [genocidal colonizer holiday] because i have to hold my tongue around my racist uncle who thinks black people shouldn't be allowed to vote"
no, you really don't
Hey, Norway in this guy’s head.
You open for immigrants? Got any cool master’s programs?
"Grow up and accept that you don't don't matter." Seems to be a concerningly common mantra these days.
That's not too far removed from "no lives matter."
I'm not sure that's a road we really want to be headed down, even if we appear to be a good ways down that road already.
It's typical of cishet WASP men (though a lot of WASPs in general) who are isolated from the violence caused by the system. They cannot imagine a world where they are on the receiving end of police brutality or an Amerikkkan military attack. They never have to watch what they say or think about where they go. Everyone actually affected by politics becomes an abstraction or hypothetical.
tl;dr--
(although it's not really tl;dr because leftist memes lol)
It is much easier to agree to disagree when your uncle isn't voting to strip you of your civil rights
Sighs this apathy for other people's suffering is so tiring. "It doesn't affect me negatively so it's not worth shunning the imperialism-enabler" is not the moral victory this person seems to imply.
I'm so tired of this, how do we change it? Does anybody have advise that has worked on helping people find a sense of solidarity?
So far, I've tried leading off with "Stalin did nothing wrong. Wait, I take that back -- he did three things wrong. He was problematic on LGBT rights, he stopped at Berlin, and he died. But other than that..." on my dear, sweet, lead-poisoned narcissist mother, but it didn't work. She just kept babbling on about how RFK Jr. is going to make everyone healthy by banning Takis, and she somehow thinks I'm a Republican (and not the Irish kind) because I called out Joe Biden for repeatedly walking back student loan forgiveness.
We're dealing with some uniquely fucked up people over here.
My grandparents aren't even originally from the US, but they seem to have this very reductive "Democrat or Republican" false binary stapled in their mind. For this reason, back when I actually did talk to them, my grandparents would assume that I approve of every single policy Biden and Obama put in place because they thought that my opposition to the Republican party meant that I was staunchly in favor of Democrats.
he did three things wrong.
Four. He also supported the creation of Israel.
Threads is basically just Twitter but you exchange the extremely insufferable chuddery for extremely insufferable libbery
Definitely not uniquely American what is bro on about
eurocuck libs are infuriating in an entirely different way. also we definitely also have ghouls who want to kill minorities, thats not "uniquely american", you smug fuck
I would be surprised if they would cut off their family members for supporting the South African white genocide. Every minority in the USA matters to these liberals, but as soon as they are beyond the country's borders minorities are invisible, unimportant, expendable.
Lie detected, norwegians do not come in contact with their parents/uncles ever again after 18 yo, (besides ättestupas)
thank god my mom shut the fuck up about Trump. i guess she does feel some shame. but otherwise have i had to "cut" anybody off? not really, it's mostly a bunch of extended family i already didn't talk to or see much. so i guess i lucked out there. then again, i cut off so many republicans 20 years ago that the work was already done. i really have hated Republicans for so long it's kinda funny. I've had to learn to hate Dem politicians, but at least my liberal aunts/uncles/cousins arent going to say stupid shit as often. really if youre not going to be chill with the libs, having a social life would be hard i think.
i found out a cousin liked(lol liked) Charlie Kirk. and likes Shapiro. but that's another person who i didnt seen for many years until recently.
I once heard about an Italian communist dad who stabbed his son for joining a neo-nazi group.
IDK if it was true, but...
Thankfully the most boomer ass opinion my dad has is that electric cars are bad. Except he hates them because they’re not gasoline cars and I hate them because they’re cars.
I always make sure to pick up trips at my airline during holidays so as not to accidentally break my no contact policy with my family