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[CW: Racism] Now they're bad because they're made by women and... I guess that's some bizarre slur for Indians

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Anyone who thinks games were peak in 2010 is unsalvageable

[–] GoebbelsDeezNuts@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Its true the best games were made in the 90s

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

ah the era when genres were invented marx-ok no but you could slot a lot of those games into a modern skin with an UI that actually makes sense and they'd be arguably better than a lot of the slop they give us nowadays

There were like one or two good years for AAA games clustered closeish before mtx models got too bad. Weve had good years before and since. Arguably more common in the early 00's.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Much as I love the ps2/xbox/gcm era, more good and great games are made now than in any era previous. the biggest problem with the industry is discoverability and having the time to actually play them as an adult.

like the last new game I played is Void Stranger, easily one of the best games I've ever played but god I was playing it for like a month and I still haven't seen everything.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

it's more that mobile games and "fifa ultimate team" hadn't metastasized the rest of games publishing yet. shit they're selling people today makes horse armor seem reasonable

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[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You can tell someone is a tourist gamer when they have no idea about industry pioneers like Roberta Williams

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No but see women dont count and have never computer or math. It's a masculine logic thing. Like, maybe a girl whos the daughter of a real computer programmer could be a poet or something sentimental(and a total walking disaster of a woman, I'd bet), but not a logical rational programmer who can't go more than five sentences without phrasing something like an equation or using a math metaphor.

Men invented that and only men can be it.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

unreal engine is famously ergonomic if you do all the hotkeys with your penis

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

One of the pioneers of multiplayer gaming was a trans woman, Danielle Bunten Berry.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

all games were at a peak from 2001-2011

No they were not. You were. Then you got older and got more responsibilities and more life experience that made you more cynical and less optimistic. And now, instead of recognizing that lamentation over lost youth, a basic fact of the human experience that we all have to deal with, for what it is you blame women because you're a misogynistic dipshit.

[–] DerEwigeAtheist@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Also, that was an objectively horrible period gor video games. Full of grey-brown modern military slop, where you kill brown people, or russians. But I guess that's what that guy wants

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You can't fucking parody these people it's impossible, "true gamer white men" COME ON this is a fucking bit I'D make up! boohoo

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

They're taking our shitposting jobs

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

i don't understand what i'm supposed to be mad about here, the fact that i can actually see the game now?

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

improved draw distance is apparently a femme trait i-love-not-thinking

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also "soulless Indians". Hey hindutva chuds, how'd that go hitching your wagon to white supremacists who hate you regardless?

Pretty well so far. Fingers crossed though.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

I do prefer the original graphics, to be honest. The remake entirely alters the vibe and colour palette of the original Gears of War, and in the case of the level shown here, mostly removes the heavy rain in favour of a light drizzle for some reason. The characters got hit with some kind of botox ray gun too and look a lot prettier and younger

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

If only the Gamer CHUD had actually tried to make a point here, instead of just getting mad that women and non-white people exist, they might've come away with a better understanding of atmosphere and tone in storytelling and game design, and may have actively become a better, more well rounded person because of it.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

yeah i get you, i'm just being glib because fuck this chud

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[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Basically 4chan invented the core of that Indian slur back in 2015, a combination of respectful term form older brother in Punjabi and a common Indian name element that means "victory". Conservatives really like to stereotype Indians as being gross and unclean in terms of feces, so they sometimes combine that racism with their other racism. The character substitution with pound signs tell us two things, firstly that they know it's a slur (and don't want YouTube to stop them from saying it), and also that they're a Br*t. Britain colonized India, so there's a fair number of Indians in Britain, and the British far-right being racist and anti-immigration the way that they are really hate them.

The original term has also become really popular on Twitter now that Elon owns it, especially after that H1B visa infighting. It also saw a boost in popularity when Mamdani was big in the news, because conservatives love responding to their political adversaries with racism. They'll also use racism against their own allies, like Vivek Ramaswamy, and since JD Vances wife is Indian-American, they refer to him and his family with that same slur too.

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[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Beyond Good and Evil tickled that (hey babe youre trans) itch in my brain when I was 11, a real game, for real gamers

The HD release has a content warning when you boot it up because it's got some weird racist shit in it

gamer moment

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

because it's got some weird racist shit in it

I'm racking my brain and can't for the life of me remember what this could've been thinking-about-it

spoiler

Granted, it was made by French people

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's been many years since I've played it, but if I had to guess...

spoilerThe first thing that immediately comes to mind is the rhinos at Mammago Garage who are basically a racist stereotype of Jamaicans.

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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

What the fuck are they mad about, that they made it so you can see shit??

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

game devs: games seem to be more fun when the player can see what's happening and there are more colors than grey and brown

gamers: THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

It's woke when there's enough lighting that you can read the signage, because reading is woke and how the commies get you

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Now that's a slur I haven't heard in a long, long time, dude has obviously been putting the hours in memorising as many slurs as he can, like a true Gamer.

Though I don't even understand what this guy is trying to show with this? GRR! GAME BAD WHEN I CAN ACTUALLY SEE THINGS!

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That slur is actually super common now in chan circles. I think I started seeing it more in the last few years, it's kinda distinctive of a specific type of America First/groyper chud who hate how South Asians learned to code and are now getting jobs in tech.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

So he's not only a tourist gamer, he's also a tourist racist? pathetic

[–] laziestflagellant@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

boss i'm gonna be honest none of those screenshots are looking good

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'll be honest. The lights do not sell me the setting very well. The first one actually sells the setting better.

I think a lot of these remakes get by on "slap some ccoooooool lighting in there to show off our graphics and they'll love that slop" instead of actually considering whether it enhances or improves the original idea.

I basically don't see any necessary difference between the second two versions. Reloaded may as well not exist.

You absolutely could remake the original and do it in a dark and horror game aesthetic style, it would work better. Instead they went for a boring style that is basically the same as every other game ever. What you have to remember is that the original stood out because it was aesthetically unique. Over time I think the unique aesthetic has been subsumed into corporate action slop.

If you want to reboot this franchise, long periods of horror and high tension in between long action battles featuring desperate shooting and barely surviving situations is the way to go. This however requires some element of creativity and willingness to take risk with the franchise and the executives never ever want to do that with anything, they want the team to tick the list of checkboxes for what's currently popular from their market research.

I don't even like Gears but I can see what you need to do with it to stop it being dead repetitive schlock nobody is happy with.

It's not even like horror isn't popular, that genre does serious numbers because Twitch streamers love it for reaction content with their audiences getting off on seeing the streamer mentally torture themselves.

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

🎵All around me are familiar faces🎵

🎵Worn out places🎵

🎵Worn out faaaaaacccceees🎵

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

HAHAHAHA what a game to choose! These motherfucking posers don't even know about CliffyB (CW: 2008)

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[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

Can you put a CW: racism for the slur in the comment?

[–] coolusername@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

that's probably an Israeli propaganda bot seriously

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They make really fucking good games now! Not the AAA studios.

Balatro

Nubby's Number Factory

Satisfactory

That's it. But those ones are fucking bangers, let me tell you

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I don't know if I'd use those as the counterargument to someone saying that the games industry is bad now because Big Woman and South Asia took over, other than Satisfactory having some women in their dev team, the other 2 are made by white guys, no? I suppose IDK if localthunk is white but he's a guy.

Maybe you could point to Celeste, Dyson Sphere Program, Disco Elysium, and others I'm surely forgetting, as examples of games made by more "diverse" (for lack of a better term) dev teams or solo devs who aren't white guys, and are very well liked.

Or maybe you just gotta, you know, cure-for-fascism

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, first of all I was NL posting.

Second of all I was summoning you in particular and like a moth to the flame you come.

Third, cure-for-fascism

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The most underrepresented minority: the bald.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

undyne-joy

But when it comes to representation, I think the most heartbreaking thing that comes to mind is this Twitter post bemoaning a programmer who was feminine with colored hair working at Bethesda if memory serves. She was revealed to be integral to much of the "golden age" work in Oblivion+Skyrim. I'm paraphrasing because I forget, but essentially she was THERE WHEN IT WHAT "JUST WHITE MEN". For me the frustration is coming from the erasure and making light of people who always liked games.

The obsession with race/sex is exhausting. Shit is like Garchomp in OU - you need to have it or you need something to address it. I want to know if you're indie, if you've branched off of a big company, or if you're taking responsibility in a big company. I want to know if you come from gaming or if you come from capitalist entertainment money siphoning land. Maybe that makes me blind to prejudice, but when the product is a game I just want the game to be good and tell a story and I think an avant garde perspective is an advantage when it comes to that.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

there's tension between "oh there were always a few women around survivorship" and "but not nearly enough because the fucking workplace and higher ed are so hostile"

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[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I thought Localthunk was Italian. The most oppressed minority on Hexbear after gamers

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

This! Indie games have been making some amazing stuff.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's that one cognitive bias I forgot the name of. You can probably name some disappointing game releases from the past 3 years off the top of your head, but you're less likely to remember mediocre games from 20 years ago. Catastrophic failures perhaps, but games that were just kinda mid and disappointing? Not so much.

Also, bit idea: PatSoc who wants to overthrow capitalism to stop the bourgeoisie from expanding their audiences to include women.

[–] MrPiss@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Survivorship bias

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[–] ComRed2@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Ah yes, the videogame industry is famously on its way out as we all know, because nobody plays games anymore.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I wish the bros a very go back to sportsball.

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