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[–] robolemmy@lemmy.world 81 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Inmate number is most appropriate

[–] atp2112@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no exceptions

William Henry Harrison?

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Especially him. Couldn't even finish his first year. Slacker.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago

This one I can get behind.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Reminds me of this haha:

The President in particular is very much a figurehead — he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it. On those criteria Zaphod Beeblebrox is one of the most successful Presidents the Galaxy has ever had — he has already spent two of his ten presidential years in prison for fraud.

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Emily Post says:

When addressing a former President of the United States in a formal setting, the correct form is “Mr. LastName.” (“President LastName” or “Mr. President” are terms reserved for the current head of state.) This is true for other ex-officials, as well. When talking about the person to a third party, on the other hand, it’s appropriate to say, “former President LastName.” This holds for introductions, as well: A current state governor is introduced as “Governor Tom Smith,” while you’d introduce an ex-governor as “former Governor Jim Bell.”

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And from an embassy’s official page:

Addressing Former Presidents

When sending letters to former Presidents, the proper form for addressing the envelope is: The Honorable (President’s name)

The proper form for the salutation in the letter is: Dear Mr. (President’s last name)

But I vaguely remember military training suggesting that using President Name was a correct term when referring to former presidents. Possibly not though, and I didn’t work in protocol, so the state department seems like a pretty good resource.

[–] tarmac@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

It reads to me like they’re just avoiding repeating “former” over and over. It’s already established it’s the former president earlier in the text.

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

The Defendant

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Depends on if he’s a demented rapist traitor or not.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 10 points 2 years ago

Hey asshole!

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The current President is "President ".

Former presidents are "Mr. " or "Former President " depending on the context in which they are being referred to.

Anybody still calling Obama or Trump "president" are just virtue signaling.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If it's Donald Trump, the proper way to address him is:

🖕🖕

Everyone else is "Mr. President."

[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (8 children)

:stares in Australian:

We don't address people by their job title here, and we'd laugh in your face if you insisted on it.

Perhaps a small exception for 'doctor', but that's acknowledging the doctorate, not the job.

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We do, but only for the current PM. Once you're out though, it's back to Mr / Ms

[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If you think the words 'prime minister Morrison' would ever have passed my lips...

... or 'prime minister Albo' for that matter, they're all overgrown fucking real estate agents.

[–] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Most medical doctors arehonorary doctors- they generally don't have PhD (doctorate in their own right)

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[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

depends. normally "former president X", but if they have been impeached then you say "IMPEACHED former president X" unless they lost the popular vote then its "UNPOPULAR IMPEACHED former president X" unless they lost an election like a one termer then its "ONE TERM LOSER UNPOPULAR IMPEACHED former president X". Its important to be accurate.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We may soon be able to tack CONVICTED FELON onto that list.

If it's too unwieldy after that, perhaps just use their prisoner ID number.

[–] RemembertheApollo@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

President Felonius Trump.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 3 points 2 years ago

Unpopular, impeached, sex offender former president

[–] n0m4n@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Too long. Loser or inmate # are appropriate.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I like "Two time popular vote loser"

Going for the three-peat!

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I'm partial to

Hey! Bitch!

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

However they wish to be addressed. Nothing in properness or etiquette is necessarily objective. If I was president, I'd let you use my actual name.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

You're welcome (and there is some flexibility there).

[–] lapislazuli@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

In Finland, even former presidents are addressed as President so and so.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Depends on the president. The current one I'd go with "heya Joe" but the former one I'd go with "hey jackass."

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

IIRC customarily a former president of the United States of America is still addressed as, “Mr. President.” In written form such as a news article I think it would be “former-president Clinton” or “former-president George H. W. Bush” if you need to distinguish between two presidents with the same last name, and subsequent references would be to “Mr. Clinton” or “Mr. Bush” as long as there’s no ambiguity, but I would defer to whatever style guide applies to your writing. I’m pretty sure that’s covered in the AP Stylebook and that’s as good an authority as any for US English. I have an old copy somewhere but it’s not easily accessible right now.

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Depends on the context and how conservative you are (in the sense of tradition for tradition, not politics or anything else). Tradition holds that you call someone at that level of elected office by their previous title. If you want to break with tradition, you can call them whatever you want. You didn’t sign any legally binding agreements that say you have to call someone a fancy title. This holds for judges, doctors, and other people that think random chance and living their life gives them a special name that you don’t get.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

I know it's not "correct" but I would just call them Mr/Mrs, they aren't president any more.

[–] Lemming421@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

“2020 election loser”

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Individual 1

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

War criminal

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago
[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Officially, once elected President, you are granted the title or "Mr. President" for life.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Mister President, President ___, or Mr. ___ all work. The Honorable ___ also works but is less common.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Mr president. Unless it's 45, in which case you may start with insurrectionist rapist criminal.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I address current president as Mr. so the question is kinda moot.

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