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[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 5 points 2 hours ago

Masters degree in AI here.

Every day I feel like medical specialist during highest anti-vax craze. No matter what I say, no matter what kinda research and articles I cite social media and advertising simply scream louder and more often.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Says someone on alt right pedo platform Twitter. He's not wrong, but come on. The irony.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago

With a blue check. Which means they paid the pedo techno fascist.

[–] epicthundercat@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Therapist here w/ Masters. Sick of life coaches.

[–] Someone8765210932@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I feel like pointing at "influencers" and putting the blame on them isn't really correct. They are probably more of a symptom.

Whose fault is it that some random blogger is being treated the same as people who studied something for decades?

E.g. the media owned by the rich or the governments ~~bought~~ "lobbied" by the rich.

A few crazy people will always exist, but currently the "inmates are running the asylum" and they actively promote this garbage. Just look at RFK.

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

People so fragile they can’t live with the idea other people might be smarter than they are

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 5 points 8 hours ago

Spot on, this is literally how society rotted away.

[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

People so fragile they can’t live with the idea other people might be smarter than they are

Need to be ridiculed, and their opinions ignored.

The thing is, expertise can manifest as tyranny.

Rather than using education to find our way around this and equalize power, we've just made stupid-fascism and expert hegemony because everyone with certification is sick of a guy on Facebook who describes himself as a 'ball talking influencer' telling them their 20 years as senior person at the CDC on the front lines of epidemiology and decade of med school are worth nothing.

We must never improve. Nothing must ever improve.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 37 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Even the fucking witches know to trust the virologists

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I like the witches who tell people to buy carbon monoxide detectors. One time I told a patient with abusive auditory hallucinations that her nighttime zyprexa was gonna shut the stupid bastard up and she was welcome to ascribe whatever spiritual interpretation she liked to that.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 18 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I'm sure you can find many people with MDs that aren't above peddling snake oil.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago

Ugh. I have Medicare so I get notices from Dr. Oz on occasion.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

Yes but the percentage would be much lower.

Also, an MD isn’t necessarily a virologist or vaccine expert. I mean, you really shouldn’t ask an ortho bro about anything but bones and joints. So I doubt MD necessarily means “elite”.

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Holy shit yes. Everybody thinks they're smarter then everybody else. That's a huge part of the problem. Nobody can just stay in their lane and admit anymore that a person with a PhD in a specific field might know a little more about that field than you. Even the educated now think they're the smartest person on the planet.

You 100% should not trust:

  • An epidemiologist's opinion on inflation
  • A civil engineer's opinion on viral spread
  • An economist's opinion on traffic flow

They're just as guilty of this bullshit as everyone else. It's everybody. The whole fucking planet at this point.

[–] Jakule17@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

an economist's opinion on traffic flow

An economist's opinion

Ftfy

Also people think being smarter means knowing more, which is stupid. A guy who spent thousands of hours studying random topic is obviously going to know more about it, no matter how smart you are it just doesn't replace time spent learning

[–] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 68 points 21 hours ago (11 children)

I see the point, but I don't think intellectual elitism is the same as anti-anti-intellectualism. I think intellectual elitism creates a sense of alienation from science that in fact leads to anti-intellectualism. "I have more specialized knowledge than you" is not the same as "I'm better than you," and acknowledging that is the solution

[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I see the point, but I don’t think intellectual elitism is the same as anti-anti-intellectualism. I think intellectual elitism creates a sense of alienation from science that in fact leads to anti-intellectualism.

That is just the inferiorily informed trying to justify their lack of knowledge by calling the people more knowledgeable than they are in that field "elitism".

In the modern day, They could EASILY educate themselves with the actual current and up to date scientific research, the internet exists.

The fact that they would rather "educate" themselves with populist YouTube bullshit videos that simply validate their incorrect beliefs instead of looking up the actual research papers that are 100% **ALSO available on the internet ** is entirely their fault and no one else's, you can't blame the fact that they won't read the research on "elitism"

[–] EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world 31 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I think they're joking about the elitism part. People just need to stop to listen to idiots

[–] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

completely tangential, but this is actually an interesting grammatical point. I'm guessing you're German by your username; "stop to listen to idiots" would mean "aufhören, um Idioten zuzuhören." "aufhören Idioten zuzuhören" would be "stop listening to idiots." it's interesting because "to [verb]" and "[verb]ing" are often interchangeable, but in this case they actually mean the opposite

[–] EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Richtig, danke.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

I understood absolutely zero of the German, but for other non native English speakers who didn't pick up on the issue here:

The usual phrase here would be "stop listening to idiots". The sentence that was used, "stop to listen to idiots" means the contrary, that you'll stop what you're doing so that you can listen to what the idiot has to say.

Which is a valid option, but an ill advised one.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The issue is that anti-intellectualists think that the very concept of knowing more than them about any given topic is elitism.

My conspiracy theorist mom would go on and on about how her spending an afternoon googling something put her ideas at a higher level than someone who got a degree studying it, and if I agreed with the person with the degree, then I was an idiot for not following her. She thought that right up until she died trying to treat her cancer with quack therapies.

Regardless of whether we frame it as "I'm better than you because I know more than you," the anti-intellectualists will still be framing it as "I'm better than you because my 'gut feeling' knows more than you." It's a competition to them, not because someone told them they were lesser, but because they already believed they were greater.

Well at least your anti vaccine mom is dead

There are way too many people like her who exist

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

They are better than them, at that thing, and if you don't defer, then they have every right to scoff at the stupidity before them.

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[–] protist@retrofed.com 31 points 19 hours ago

Intellectual elitism is absolutely not what we're missing, we're missing respect for expertise

[–] c64z86@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The big problem is that we're not just up against plain stupidity, we're also up against organised and weaponised stupidity that is being enabled and fanned by those in power and the media, and also their billionaire backer donors, who want to drag us all the way back to the medieval ages.

That's much more sadistic and worse than plain stupidity which we are all guilty of from time to time until we learn better. With organised and weaponised stupidity, they don't want us to learn better, because our ignorance benefits their wallets.

[–] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

But but but tHe RaTiO

[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world -2 points 7 hours ago

The absolute fucking truth!!!

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t think it’s elitism to believe that a scientist understands their field better than an influencer. And I also don’t think this is a new phenomenon - as a society we have been buying remedies from carnival attractions and Hollywood celebrities for centuries.

Humans en masse tend to listen to those who yell loudest, not those who appeal to common sense. We can be smart as individuals, but we are dumb as fuck as a group

Everything we do is thousands on thousands on thousands of years old.

However, some 50 years ago there was more cultural respect held for doctors and lawyers and astronauts and the like. We have forgotten somewhat how to value expertise. It is a problem, regardless of anything else.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Calling that intellectual elitism is like calling state-funded healthcare socialism

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Um, that is socialism. Bad example, mate.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 9 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Could just say we need to get rid of anti-intellectualism but has to be phrased in the most provocative way possible because it's on social media 🙄

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No, what we need to bring back is dumb-shaming. People need to feel ashamed of their own ignorance so they stop believing what a fakebook idiot tells them.

[–] dawcas@scribe.disroot.org 8 points 18 hours ago

Years saying "stop making stupid people famous" and nobody listened.

[–] CoolSouthpaw@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Part of the problem is that we glamorise them calling them "influencers". We should call them "cuntfluencers", or maybe better yet, "cunts".

Attention seekers

Grifters, anti vaxers and Karens and chuds

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 21 hours ago

This is not a shitpost!

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Well, BIG TIMI is either a bot or has a serious Twitter problem, as he's posted 31 times in the past 17 hours, every hour:

https://xcancel.com/OrevaZSN

...And he pays for Twitter.

To bring intellectualism back into his life, maybe he should consider that.

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