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[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

100%. For example right now the meat and dairy lobby groups are pushing hard for everyone to eat for more protein than they need. Now, I have people who can't tell the difference between a cytokine and a histone without using Google, even if it slapped them round the face, telling me they need 100g plus a day in Brotien. Its just a coincidence that this so called health advice makes those groups a lot more money.

[–] captcha_incorrect@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I've heard that you cannot absorb (for lack of a better word) more that 30g of protein/day (adjust for your body weight).

Is that remotly true?

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

It really depends on how much else you're eating and how much muscle growth is going on. Generally speaking, presuming a normal person with a job and not a professional athlete somewhere in their 20s on a strict diet and training regime with lots of weight lifting involved, it seems very unlikely that you'll have much use for more than 30 grams maybe a bit more if you're a man and on a proper weight lifting regime.

If you do, make sure you at least eat plenty of vegetables that are high in fibre and lots of water. Even if you're having 30 it's best to aswell.

It depends on what you mean by absorb. To make into muscle, it's about right. Maybe a bit more for a man on a hard weight lifting regime. Like, 4 x 1-1.5 hours a week. The rest will be stored as fat, if it isn't used for energy, the same as anything else. That could also be seen as absorbed but I think you mean the first one.

[–] balian@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One of my past flatmates literally self-diagnosed himself with diabetes out of nowhere and started extreme dieting - made all sugar and high-carb foods haram and even started mixing his own flour to make it "multigrain". Since we were sharing kitchen expenses all of our meals then started involving coarse bread and either chicken or tofu at all times. Made me constipated for a while.

I think all he really wanted was an excuse for that diet and it does seem to have worked well in him; shame it didn't do so on me and just made me eat outside more instead.

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Eat ourside? First response is what are you a dog?

Second response is: so is eating outside a way to say going out to eat in British English?

[–] nightshade@piefed.social 121 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I'm a personal trainer with certifications in fitness nutrition (I'm not a dietitian, those are actual licensed medical practitioners you go to see about dietary needs. I can legally provide guidelines, but I can't prescribe meal plans.)

Our body is great at getting rid of toxins and waste products. It's almost as if we've evolved ways of dealing with such things. Anyone talking about "toxins" and "waste products" as if they're 'stuck' in your body is either very ignorant, or trying to sell you snake oil. Probably both. I've seen a lot of it, especially in my profession. People making up bullshit to sound knowledgeable and sell you something you don't need. And yeah, a lot of trainers are just as ignorant and just trying to sell you something you don't need.

EDIT: In case anyone wants to sink their teeth into the topic, there's a very good book I read as part of my course work, called "Nutrition, 6th Edition" by Dr. Paul Insel; Don Ross; Kimberley McMahon; Melissa Bernstein. It's all very well sourced and kept up to date as modern science catches up. Available on AA if you don't want to buy it.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 51 points 2 days ago (27 children)

Unless, those are microplastics, which are probably something that will always be there for us.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (17 children)

They've detected microplastics in breast milk. You know what that means? It's time to start living up to our name as mammals.

We hormonally induce lactation for everyone. All the time. Just leech out those microplastics. Nips into 3d printers.

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Yeah, valerian root ain't getting rid of your microplastics buildup.

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[–] waigl@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (5 children)

There are bio-accumulative toxins that really do get stuck in your body. Lead is a good example. Not that the supposed cures being peddled by these people can actually do anything about those.

Also, for the normal kind of toxin, the biggest factor keeping the levels in your body high is continued intake. Reducing that totally makes sense. However, you need to first have a real, based on science, understanding of what those toxins are in the first place and not just randomly blame junk food or 5G radiation, and it needs to be a permanent life style change. A two week "cleanse" does nothing. A juice will not detoxify you. (Depending on the juice, especially how filtered and how sugary it is, it may be healthy for other reasons. Standard orange juice is not, it's way too sugary.)

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Also: Replace "super" (as in "superfood") with "sacred" and it works just as well.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

my boss does a "cleanse" once a month. IDK what she takes but she also believes ivermectin cures cancer, sooooo....
Its no coincidence that she is one of the sickest "healthy" people ive met. She has no health conditions or chronic illnesses. Shes in good physical shape and doesn't smoke or drink. Exercises most days, etc. Yet, she "cant get out of bed" or has some mystery stomach flu or something like that about once a month. Funny how that seems to line up just after her cleanses. I suggested once that she was making it worse with the cleanses but she just doubled down.
Willfully ignorant and proud.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

as soon as you hear (X) cures cancer you know shes deep into pseudoscience, its one of the "gateway" into pseudoscience. those cleanses are likely messing up her gut microbiome causing "diarrhea, GI problems". when i took antibiotics once he caused watery runs, and it never was the same.

i wonder if shes getting antibiotics from a shady ass doctor, i know if you take too much you will have chronic GI problems. there something called chronic lyme, where its usually midwestern woman believes its chronic so they go to a MD that is "specialized in Lyme" to be prescribed on antbiotics for months on end, and to convince themselves they have it, they take another shady test for lyme.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Firehouse in the USA: "right leaning straight white guys that watch FOX news" is over represented. We work 24 hour shifts and thus cook two meals a day at the station. Inevitably that means I get to experience whatever dumb-ass dietary advice the manosphere/RFK Jr. is pushing: keto, carnivore, MORE PROTEIN, etc.

They get hilariously defensive when I tell them "I don't do fad diets".

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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 days ago

When I read "nutritional hexes" I assumed this would be honeycomb related.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Oh how I hate the whole idea of detox and clean as it relates to nutrition. I worked at a health food store when I was young and while there was good nutritious food there, plenty of good people, the whole idea of 'clean' comes from a very dark place. I remember the raw foods guys and the idea of breathetarians. Like the less physical and embodied you were, the better person you were, enlightened. The idea of the physical world being unclean and something you should try to be free of, I hate it.

It really is more of a religious idea than anything to do with physical health. I think you have to enjoy being embodied, love the physical plane of existence, to have a healthy body. Not perfect.

ETA: OMG another comment reminded me. Also the colonics people trying to get literally clean inside, horrified at the stuff that came out of them, convinced it was toxic. I'm sure they are all dead by now.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago

I read a thing recently that argued that "purity" is one of the most distinctive thematic motifs in fascistic thinking, and examined how that is a means by which people can slide into right wing ideologies from an initially left wing position.

It was striking because it made it clock for me why there seems to be a "crunchy eco-leftist turns right wing" pipeline. To attempt to summarise some of the article and my own thoughts following it: A purity oriented framework of health situates "toxins" and the like as the Big Bad Other. Many of us are aware of how dangerous the notion of a Big Bad Other is if we're thinking about people, but it can creep up with us in contexts like this because it doesn't seem harmful initially. However, by thinking about health in this way, we train ourselves to think in terms of the Big Bad Other, and condition ourselves towards thinking about things in a black and white manner.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I worked at a vitamin store chain owned by the parents of a college friend of mine (who is now worth $34 million lol - that chain has turned into a miniature Whole Foods) for a few months. I remember one customer came in because she was going through a divorce, and the cashier said "oh, you need St. John's Wort for that". Nobody there thought this was unusual in any way.

Also knew a guy in college who claimed to be a Breathitarian. We caught him at the Ponderosa steak house in the next town over one night.

[–] bobo@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

I remember one customer came in because she was going through a divorce, and the cashier said "oh, you need St. John's Wort for that".

Capitalist witch woman gives antidepressants

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

alot of people buy into the "flouride-free" gluten free, and inflammation, lysine diet apparently.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 37 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The funny thing, the truly funny thing, Is that many people reading this will assume their assumptions about nutrition are fact based and everybody else's is pseudoscience. Examining the data on your own biases is critical for any standing in science.

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[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Pseudo-dermatology is also not very far away. The gap between what dermatologists and influencers say would be hilarious if gullible teenagers weren't spending ridiculous amounts of money ruining their own skin.

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nah bro I’m a Paleolithic human so I eat my burger without a bun.

[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Someone has to repackage the low carb diet in a new way every decade.

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (34 children)

The number of people that don't believe that taking in fewer calories than you put out will cause you to lose weight still astounds me. Your body isn't some magic device that doesn't have to obey the laws of physics.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Some people mistake healthier with less calories.

I switched from a box of Little Debbie’s a day to a bag of trail mix! Why can’t I lose weight?

That olive oil you’re using is good for you, sure, but it’s not a freebee. It has calories. Things like this are often not even noticed or counted.

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[–] 01011@monero.town 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Shout out to "alkaline water".

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[–] crimsonpoodle@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

What would be some good search terms for classes that would teach nutrition bonus points if you have a particular course in mind. Thanks!

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