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My manager has gone 100% into AI where he might have been slightly skeptical at first, it's slightly scary, I see many of the benefits of modern AI, specially in helping me deal with my ADHD, but I feel like what differentiates me from the masses is gone. Middling coding skills, doesn't matter, ability to recall obscure knowledge I read or learned about years ago, doesn't matter, why would I be a valued employee while still having to deal with the negative side effects of ADHD? On top of that, immigrants getting hunted for sport on the streets, I'm not doing too good.
I feel the flow of this comment.
Internet hugs homie. I know things suck.
"Oops. We thought the workers would demand lower pay."
The future is in agentic AI with a single developer for code review. Management tells the developer what they want, developer engineers the prompt, gives it to the AI agent that has complete access to the relevant projects and DB schema. It generates a change log, and the developer reviews it, asking for changes as needed.
Huge teams are about to be consolidated, with a huge inflow of software engineers into the unemployment bin, and entire downstream economies are going to collapse from the resulting unemployment of previously high paying careers. We need Universal Basic Income yesterday.
constantly reviewing low quality work. kill me now.
what godawful boring job that would be. I'd have absolutely no motivation to do it well
The near future? How is this a sustainable business model for any business? You just need one developer and “agentic” AI to build anything, how do you differentiate yourself?
But before that problem, I don’t see the current tools anywhere near able to deliver on the hype. They are incredible and they have plenty of use cases, but for anything non trivial it feels like it’s more work fixing the errors they create than just doing it myself. I think I’d kill myself if I had to review and fix multiple agents worth of indecipherable code.
All that being said, everyone still might get laid off! It doesn’t have to be good to crash the market.
You differentiate yourself by being first. That's partly why OpenAI and Sam Altmann are so fixated on bringing general AI to light. They know that if AGI is possible that the first one to reach it will see all the benefits. Second place gets nothing. Unfortunately it's becoming more and more obvious that AGI is a dream and not actually possible.
As always all those claims have very big gaps: relevant projects, db schema, management know what they want. Dude there are multi billion dollar companies that take hundreds of millions of dollars to figure out what management want and you think they will replace it with single prompt ? It's like talking to 5 year old.
Sorry, missed this was in ShitPost. Please, allow me to revise: Dang clankers, Deytükurjerbs!
I unfortunately work with AI and actually understand how it works. It's going to replace workers the same way that cocaine replaces workers.
It'll make some knowledge workers moderately more productive but that excess will be absorbed like with any other tool and we'll just do more shit as a society at the expense of continuing to destroy the environment.
Once the bubble bursts and things calm down there will probably be some job growth as the economy figures out how to better utilize these new tools. It's like if you invented a machine that could frame 60% of a house and brilliantly declared you'd fire all the framers but then realized you're now building a lot of houses and need more framers than before to finish the remaining 40%.
It'll frame the whole house well enough for the layman but 40% will fail code compliance
IMO, the only thing to be taken seriously with text generators should be natural language processing.
- take this fat block of text and give me a bullet point list.
- what are synonyms for X?
- copy-paste a big TOS and tell me the key takeaways that are anti-customer.
- take these documents and make one coherent document about one page long.
- etc.
The problem is that even with things like this, it frequently fails because it hyperfixates on some details while completely glossing over others, and it's completely random if it does that or if it's good, and this uncertainty basically necessitates that you check everything it outputs, negating much of the productivity that you gain.
I once used it for a Python script, and I generated three outputs out of these three generations only. One regex function ended up in my real script, but I got the idea to use regex from it. And I used its output, which actually worked.
You are thinking of office work, but there are a LOT of jobs that will be permanently replaced by AI-driven robotics, like fast food workers, retail shelf stockers, drivers, warehouse work, etc. Those are workers that can't be easily trained UP, and many will likely become permanently unemployed.
I don't buy that. There's little reason to automate those jobs because the labor is so cheap. And as someone who has worked most of those jobs in the past, most of those workers could be easily trained for different jobs; most are actively taking it upon themselves to train to get out of them.
Labor is cheap? Most cities are approaching $15 an hour, and even those immoral states that keep it at the Federal minimum of $7.75, a robot is still going to be cheaper in the long run. Then there are benefits, payroll taxes, personal issues, schedules, etc. People are a pain in the ass, and expensive in a lot more ways than money.
Besides, it almost certainly won't be up to the franchisee. When corporate decides that they can be more efficient and more PROFITABLE with automation, the stores will go along with it, whether they like it or not.
It's not an if, it's a when. It's definitely going to happen.
a robot is still going to be cheaper in the long run
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That has been happening for decades. It hasn’t actually made retail that much more automated, just massively reduced quality of service and quality of work for those remaining. Every store that has followed these methods still gets customers due to increased isolation and lack of choice, but no one likes going there.
Yeah, they've been sneaking in industry killing technology for years. I had a nice career in the record business as a sales manager to retailers, until they shifted all music to easily pirated digital files on the Internet, closing 99% of the record stores in the country, and 1000s of people like me lost their jobs nearly overnight, without the media noticing it at all.
The tech to make any fast food outlet almost fully robotic is available right now, and every fast food corporation has a plan to implement it some point, and fire all those pesky humans. The only reason they haven't done it, is because they know there will be a huge outcry, and almost certainly a crippling boycott of whichever company dives in first.
But make no mistake, as soon as one does it, they'll ALL do it, and MILLIONS of fast food workers are going to lose their jobs. Teens, retirees, working moms, second incomes, etc., are all going to be in trouble.
make some knowledge workers moderately more productive but that excess will be absorbed
That seems to result in a higher burn out rate. The worker had to do more soul crushing check and verify work instead of doing knowledge work.
Can confirm. It's not AI but probably 80% of my job is just emailing other people to do shit, emailing other people status updates about their work, and verifying their completed work which is frequently wrong. It sucks.
Early last year I had to attend a company conference, it is a yearly thing where mgmt get to stand on a stage and have their peons aplaud them after telling everyone how amazing they are.
That year was particularly insulting.
The CEO brought up a person who he said had inspired him and how great the guy was.
The only thing that guy spoke about was how proud he was to have moved high income jobs to low income countries.
That, in front of a crowd of high income employees in a high income country.
And we were expected to applaud him....
And what is ridiculous was that most people genuinly did seem to enjoy the talk.
Granted, this was a company in the finance sector, and I work in IT, but come on people, at least have the decency of looking uncomfortable when someone is happily talking about moving similar jobs to yours to other countries to your face.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that's had to suffer through this kind of crap.
My last company did a yearly circle-jerk session like this where the leadership literally recorded "intro bits" of themselves like you'd see on a jumbo-tron at a sporting event. You know, like a snappy montage shot of them nodding their head or waving or some shit with fire around it.
And then they literally played these clips on a giant screen with intro music while they came out on stage. It was the cringiest, most ego-fueled, shit I've ever seen from a company that could barely manage their basic operations.
Lol they did that this year here as well, used AI to make them look like superheroes, didn't work....
We have those virtually a few times a year. There's always some dickhead talking about how great they did at reducing payroll. I'm like, "Motherfucker, you are talking to the payroll."
That tracks for finance though. Many in that industry are the grind hard in your 20s-30s, retire in Thailand in your 40s type.
Every one of them probably wants a little (saint) Island of their own
Isn't that good though? I also have a fairly high income and live in a high income country. Compared to people in poorer countries, we would be the upper class living very charmed lives. In fact, the US poverty line is at $15,000 in annual income, or just over $40 a day. But someone making this much would be richer than 83% of the world. People in less privileged countries should have better access to well-paying jobs to help mitigate the disparity.
Got damn clankers
Filth-ridden wireborn
Fleshless rust clumps
Disgusting Steelkin
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-effects-workers-psychological
The article is... fine... I guess.
