lightnsfw

Despite all of us collectively agreeing that the law is dumb/flawed, the 40 M residents of Cali should have the liberty to be able to use distros that depend on systemd, legally. And, the developers of these distros using systmed (whether you interpret the law to see them as OS providers or not) want to be able to provide these distros legally.

Disagree, they should deal with the consequences of electing mentally deficient legislators. But even so. They could make a fork that meets californias requirements and leaves the rest of us out of it. No reason the whole god damn world should be dragged down with one shitty state.

Just because systemd merged this code does not inherently result in every single user application querying this, nor does it force you to install apps that do query the API. One may freely choose to not use apps that require it. If one needs an app that requires it, one may set a garbage DOB to their user. I don’t see this as an issue. Do you?

Not every app that does this will have a viable alternative that doesn't. And yes there is an issue, putting in a fake DOB isn't a sure bet because what if some of the apps that you must use that start utilizing this API are comparing their info against yours for some kind of verification purpose, while you also must use another app that uses it that you do not want to provide your DOB to? You can't have it both ways with this system.

Anybody want to team up with me and see if we can pick up Vincent and rotate him so he can look at the stars?

When I did hiring our HR had some system that did this. It fucking sucked. It passed through so many shit candidates. I eventually ended up just going straight to the discard pile when I had to review applications.

The difference is using a centralized point on the OS that is designed to hand that info out to anyone that requests it, vs each app prompting the user and storing that info in a profile that is hopefully encrypted if they are doing things right and NOT designed to hand it out to anything else.

The only way the field would be used is if a person decided to use a different piece of software that wants a birthdate.

It leave the door open for this to happen. A malicious software may not advertise that it is harvesting your demographic information. Now that this is in place it's one more thing we have to worry about when evaluating software. There is absolutely no reason to be storing PII in a centralized spot where anything and everything can request it. If I want an app to have any of that shit I'll enter it on a case by case basis.

You can say "well don't put it in there" but what happens when big monopolistic corporations start requiring it to use some service of theirs that you don't have an alternative for? Now I have to maintain a separate PC for that shit? Fuck that.

Its not leaving a lot of choice if it's part of systemd and I'd wager far more people do not want this than were asking for it. There's no benefit to it except for the government and corporations that want your data.

It doesn't guarantee anything, but does open the door for it. Now that this functionality exists, apps are going to start using it and requiring it. It's now something we all have to worry about and compensate for going forward.

If you're not putting accurate information in there why have it at all? Why argue in favor of it? There is literally no benefit to having this shit other than to comply with a bullshit law that they could get around by simply blocking California users from downloading their OS (this wouldn't actually work because peer to peer exists, but it would eliminate the OS developers responsibility in the situation).

It’s possible to put your full first and last name into your user, so by your logic the first and last name fields of the user profile should not exist.

Agreed

You don't even have to be educated to learn basic morality. Virtually all popular media teaches right and wrong. Babies can understand empathy. Being an evil prick is a choice.

How is having a centralized store of all your demographic information where any app can query it on your OS a privacy concern? Are you serious? Maybe people don't want to send their personal information to every single god damn thing that asks for it?

Example:

The Datastealingassholes app wants your data

Without this: You are prompted to enter your DOB in a field, decide fuck no, and that's that.

With this: They query the data store on your OS and they have whatever they want without input from you. Maybe the app is run by a bad actor trying to spy on you. They already have your DOB. It just confirmed for them that YOU are the person operating this PC.

Yeah they can use the pothole debris to kill all the pigeons. Pay attention.

Any education required to not be a piece of shit has been available to him his whole life. It's everywhere. Instead he's made the choice to ignore all of it and be a hateful fascist turd. Fuck him.

What benefit is there to have it? The only purpose it serves is to create privacy concerns.