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[–] Friendlybirdseggs@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

coughs in hydra

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago (3 children)

How many animals have we ground up and put through a sieve into salt water to be this confident about it being the only animal that can do this? I need sources.

[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I mean, enough that manufacturing of homogenizers is a thing. https://improbable.com/2021/05/13/shakespeare-and-the-whole-mouse-homogenizer/?amp=1

The ad features the comforting headline: “Only the Polytron reduces an entire mouse to a soup-like homogenate in 30 seconds”

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

is this the biologist's equivalent of "assume a flat, frictionless plane"

Assume A Perfectly Homogeneous Liquid Mouse

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago

now that’s what i call molecular biology!

I shouldn’t have asked for sources…

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think there's nematodes that we've blended up before, but instead you get a bunch of nematodes instead of just one.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

“Hey, Bob, watcha getting up to?”

“I’m just chopping up these worms.”

“… Why?”

“… sssssscience?”

“Holy shit, they’re all functioning individually!”

“Oh, thank fu- I mean, yeah, that’s what I was testing for. …Do we have any dogs?”

“…”

[–] Rezoie@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] meekah@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

basically tiny worms, often shorter than a few milimeters. it's the name for a whole group of different species, so some are microscopic while some can be several cm long

[–] Rezoie@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

sounds yuckyy I hate insects and worms

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm trying with a dog now, the hamster and the cat didn't work...

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

Ed... ward...

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[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 223 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How many other animals did they put through a sieve to reach this conclusion? How many?!

[–] aislopmukbang@sh.itjust.works 77 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Many, many poor little creatures with simpler or more robust or segmented nervous systems. Mostly common worms, cnidarians, starfish, metamorphosing insects, and more in that line of thought. It’s common in college bio to watch planarians unmangle themselves. Sucks for them, but they get food and relative safety, so I’ve always considered it an even trade

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Do they regrow their body or a new body made from the same parts?

[–] rucksack@feddit.org 13 points 3 days ago

New ship of Theseus just dropped

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago

What the fuck is Theseus doing over there?

TIL Deadpool is a sponge.

[–] s@piefed.world 145 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If you mix up the grindings of multiple sponges, do they only recombine with their own cells?

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 84 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Excellent question!

Now on to the grinder...

[–] mech@feddit.org 56 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Did I hear on to Grindr?
Hell yes, let's do science!

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago

Ooh I hope Science is cute!

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

You do you... And me? 😘

[–] hunkyburrito@lemmy.zip 52 points 4 days ago

Based on the link sent by fossilesque@mander.xyz above, it seems somewhat unlikely. The video mentions that the sponge recombines into multiple small sponges, meaning the cells don't necessarily remember the original form.

I very well could be wrong in my interpretation though

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago

The real scientist here asking the real questions

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 70 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There seem to be many of these multicellular animals who don't feel like a singular individual animal. I was commenting on a post a few months ago about the most genetically simple multicellular animal, this thing has less base pairs than most bacteria, and it can also do this trick where disassociated cells recombine into new individuals. This creature also reproduce sexually if and only if the concentration of fellow individuals is high enough, cells will just leave the body and join a new one like for fun. It really calls into question what an individual is.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago

I guess it makes sense that multicellularity would be more of a spectrum than a binary condition. If life evolved into it gradually, then it would make sense to find a lot of "intermediate" evolutionary states that don't feel like they're distinctly one or the other.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What if you cut it in half first, would the ground up halves restore to half a sponge?

Then what if you stir the sponge powder and remove half.

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Give this person a grant and let them sciencify please

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[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So, my assumption is: separated cells with the same genetic code, or some other biomarker of "individuality" that might not technically be unique, will attach to each other given the chance.

Super quick research suggests they don't have organs or a nervous system, but do have specialized bits like flagella to move water through their pores/tunnels. The majority of the cells just ... are. Sounds more like a colony of genetically identical cells than a single multi-cellular creature (to me), but I assume biologists have much more information and reason to consider them the way they do.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So could we clone them and then grow them larger again, then once they regrow combine them into a super sponge!

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I dug around for a little bit, and it seems like the answer might be yes. Take what follows with a grain of salt, as I skimmed or read a few sources focused on different things and have done my best to reproduce a full picture.

First, some basic facts. Sponges anchor to the seabed (freshwater ones anchor to the dirt at the bottom of a lake/whatever). Sponge cells can move around each other and rearrange, part of their normal functioning, to keep water flowing through themselves efficiently for respiration and food capture.

Next, the mechanisms of reconstruction from a soup of sponge cells. As they bump into each other and recognize their own kind, sponge cells manage to hold together and hope for ground to attach to. They flatten out, presumably both to improve grip to the ground and to provide a large surface area for more cells to join. As long as the new colony ends up with enough of two specific kinds of cells (one makes connective mesohyl, the other makes everything else), it can grow.

The main thing I couldn't (quickly) find is specific confirmation that two healthy, stable colonies coming from a single halved source sponge can reattach, or if the reaggregation process only works following injury or during some kind of stress. Since the cells normally move around, though, it seems reasonable that this could work.

Based on all that and assuming their aren't other factors for sponge cells recognizing each other not entirely based on DNA, then presumably clones could also be attached.

Note that sponges don't actually stop growing. Their main limits are resource needs and predation, since some sea life likes to take nibbles or bites out of them (that's possibly a factor to why they are so adept at reorganization). So if your question involved cloning (rather than reattachment) only to get around a rough maximum size or early-life growth period that stops, it shouldn't be necessary.

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 22 hours ago

So we can start hunting for a world record on biggest living sponge manufactured. 🧐🤔

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 14 points 3 days ago

Like Deadpool

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 3 days ago

Would have been better without the dumb AI image

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My body still repairs itself while I dissociate. Does that count?

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[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Fact: Spongebob can teleport

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

Ah, yes, I too read The Bikini Bottom Horror

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Don't caterpillars turn thier cells to mush when they turn into butterflys?

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, but I don't think it works with a grinder.

However, apparently caterpillars retain memories from their caterpillar form when in butterfly form! That's pretty cool.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bro, the whole process of going from caterpillar-> goo->butterfly creeps me out.

I’m sure it is fascinating. But also, nope.

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[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

They don’t completely turn to goo, structures are already there in caterpillar form. https://youtu.be/4RaCURU6A2o

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

How do they know other lifeforms do not do that?

Answer me! How do they know?!

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[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So, when they reassemble does it start with the middle finger?

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