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[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 129 points 4 months ago (2 children)

We have figured out big stuff and small stuff very well! And if it weren't for the little fact they share the same universe, it would be very good general theories.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (14 children)

No way I live long enough for us to get to a Grand Unified Field theory. :(

[–] SmokeyDope@piefed.social 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Anything in particular you want to know about that only a GUT might provide? or do you just want to see what it looks like?

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"We just throw darts in the dark now and see if the math still maths. If it does, we create a new field of theoretical physics."

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] mech@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago

As one of the great scholars of our time has said:
"Nobody knows what a magnet is."

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think it's in the list as "heavy stuff".

I took that to mean singularities

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Turbulence can go to hell and take Reynolds numbers with them

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago

A-fuckin-men brother

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Turbulence seems to be to be deterministic chaos, that if we had perfect resolution, and unlimited processing power, we could predict turbulent flow with precision.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I prefer not to reference deceased scientists & philosophers because it makes me appear old. I prefer to only acknowledge the wisdom of contemporaries such as Jordan Peterson & Neil DeGrass Tyson so people don't think I'm elderly.

/s

(This is how I feel when kids say they're embarrassed about liking 80s music)

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not even clear why hot water freeze faster than cold one.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think this is true. Just a myth or it only occurs in certain circumstances.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In 2016, Burridge and Linden studied a slightly different measure, the time it took water samples to reach 0 °C but not freeze. They carried out their own experiments, and reviewed previous work by others. Their review noted that the large effects observed in early experiments had not been replicated in other studies of cooling to the freezing point, and that studies showing small effects could be influenced by variations in the positioning of thermometers: "We conclude, somewhat sadly, that there is no evidence to support meaningful observations of the Mpemba effect."

From the Wikipedia article.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 months ago

i mean, you’re really burying the lead there when the article states pretty clearly in the abstract that the existence of this is contentious.

your quote doesn’t really demonstrate it doesn’t exist, it just demonstrates what the article already clearly states which is that people don’t agree.

it’s disingenuous to quote that specifically while ignoring things like:

In 2021, John Bechhoefer described a way to reliably reproduce the effect.[23] In 2024, Argelia Ortega, et al. studied the freezing of small (1-20mL) drops in a Peltier cell with a thermographic camera, and found that hot drops consistently froze faster than cold ones, with a more pronounced difference for larger drops. In particular, hot drops finished freezing sooner after the onset of recalescence, and experienced less of a temperature spike during the freezing process.[24]

from the exact same article, is all i am saying. bad rhetoric.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Modern studies using freezers with well-understood properties have observed the Mpemba effect where water supercools before freezing. Water that starts out cooler tends to reach a lower supercooled temperature before freezing.

Also from the Wikipedia article.

If you define the Mpemba effect as hot water reaching 0 degrees faster, then no, it's not observable. But if you define the Mpemba effect as heated water freezing sooner, (remembering that freezing can initiate below the "freezing point" when water is subcooled) then the Mpemba effect may be observed.

If true, it would be interesting that cool water is less likely to nucleate and form ice than water that was heated.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

This is old. We got turbulence now at least.

Edit: i mean the discovery of turbulence calculation about 10, 15 years ago.

[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 4 months ago

I thought that referred to the navier stokes millennium problem

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago

Look I ain't calling you no turbulance, if you need help, call 911.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

All models are wrong. Some are useful.

— George Box

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 4 points 4 months ago

I'm still on phlogiston.

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 4 points 4 months ago

The more we learn, the more we learn that we need to learn.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

to be fair, all that only applies for the extremes.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

I can make turbulence with my bare hands.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Or some same topic. Read Griffith to feel like you understand electrodynamics, then Jackson to realize you don't.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"It only applies for how the Universe works at its most fundamental level"

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[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I3 atlas has entered the chat.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Galileo was actually very bad at science.

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