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[–] ephemeral@hexbear.net 105 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

here it is, the conservative turn to "Epstein did nothing wrong" and "actually it's ephebophilia". finally the right is being honest about the fact that they just straight up support pedophilia and think child abuse is good actually. after all these are the kinds of people who want to retvrn to ancient Rome

into the barely legal type

liked 15 year old girls

so... not legal. and you know what else is illegal? human trafficking. in fact that's illegal even if the victims were adults! (which, to reiterate, they were not)

and to my knowledge Epstein had victims as young as 12

[–] thefunkycomitatus@hexbear.net 54 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He had actual child porn as well. He did not stop at 12. Their next argument will be that okay it was children but that's actually trad if you look at the 1800s.

These people learned nothing from Kirk and "I'm going to say ludicrous shit in public" is only going to bring more hilarious results.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago

bring more hilarious results

timmy-pray

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 52 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Faster than I thought, I was saying we were still 2 weeks out from the "actually it's ephebophilia you SJW" line from mainstream republicans. They must be posting on 4chan for advice from their base about all this.

[–] The_hypnic_jerk@hexbear.net 37 points 3 weeks ago

I mean not that far from it, there's straight up groypers within the party

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 100 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

The "Shoot Your Local Pedophile" people defending child sex trafficking

I wish I could say I were surprised, but i'm really not

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 60 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The "I will kill a teenage boy if he touches my daughter" crowd real cool with 40 year old men touching their daughters

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 50 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That daughter is for me and my friends, not some upstart who doesn't even have a mortgage grillman

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 58 points 3 weeks ago

Trump could literally come out tomorrow and do a presser with "Jailbait" by his buddy Ted Nugent playing in the background and the chuds would be like "there's my president!" freedom-and-democracy

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 46 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Pro tip: The "shoot your local pedo" and Tiktok "pedo hunters" are all actually pedophiles themselves most of the time.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago

They're just knocking off the competition and whoever has bad enough opsec to get caught.

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[–] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 90 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Anybody under 21 is a child and if they even stand next to a queer they'll be corrupted and traumatized but somehow as soon as you hit puberty at like 12 as long as the predator is a straight white republican male its totes fine and not pedophilia in any way! God I hope they all die and go to hell.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 54 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Everything is a bit loopy no? We got chuds who want child brides and we got liberals like "a relationship between a 40 year old and a 35 year old is assault", idk which fuckin' end is up with these people.

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[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 52 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

34 year old hanging out in a Nazi Republican group chat is just a wittle boy who didn't know any better.

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[–] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 82 points 3 weeks ago

barely legal

15 year olds

The lowest age of consent in the US is 16. It's 18 in Florida where most of his non-island crimes happened, 17 in NY.

Also at least one of his victims was 12.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 71 points 3 weeks ago

Megyn R Kelly thats-why-im-confused

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 58 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

What is the over/under on Karoline Leavitt describing the difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia by the end of Nov?

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 45 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like they'll start by claiming that it's "statutory" and not the trafficking and abuse that it was. Ephebophilia is too big a word for the audience they need to convince to want to learn.

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[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 56 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know somebody very close to this case....Jeffrey Epstein, in this person's view, was not a pedophile...barely legal type, like he liked 15 year old girls

I didn't know Alan Dershowitz and Megyn Kelly were friends

[–] ClassIsOver@hexbear.net 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

15 is not on the right side of "barely legal", and it's weird that they don't know that. If they had consciences, they wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing they're putting that out into the world.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, “barely legal” is a porn category. It means women who are of legal age. “Barely.” They might look younger than the average for their age but like… that’s the whole point.

This is kinda like that time the media couldn’t understand furries and/or furry porn. Or when somebody feigns not to know what a porn move is. Except it’s a person using their giant media platform to grease the skids of the sexual abuse of minors. Cool!

I’m so glad the media helped rehabilitate the reputation and career of this woman in the form of a big Hollywood biopic about an event in her life where one of the biggest stars of the day plays her. Cool lady!

agony-acid

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

There is not a difference in the eyes of anyone that thinks fucking children is not acceptable at any age.

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[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 50 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

How are y’all liking hell?

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My theory proving correct we all died in 2012 and forgot about it and now we exist in hell.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm surprised this kind of thing didn't happen sooner. Right wing media narratives about Trump and Epstein have had to make more and more compromises the more obvious it became the two were very close. At first it was something like "Everyone knew Epstein. The Clintons knew him too!"

Then it was something like "Ok Trump and Epstein were close but Trump didn't know about the pedo stuff." Then it was "ok Trump knew about it but that's why he didn't talk to Epstein after 2003." I guess now we're at a point where they have to argue that it wasn't actually pedophilia.

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[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 46 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I don't think this angle is going to be very popular even with the jughooters

[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

it absolutely will be. they believe whatever they’re told to believe, their capacity for cognitive dissonance is boundless

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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Jughooter cultural is knee deep in normalizing 16 year olds being in relationships with 30-somethings. The pedo pearl clutching was always a front for them to marginalize LGBT people.

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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

It's fucking sick shit

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

I bet it will be. We're months away from an executive order lowering the age of consent or removing it entirely. Of course that's not legal but nobody will care and it'll be tied up in courts forever and the supreme Court will defend Trump

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[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

if she had a 15 year old daughter maybe she would be able to have empathy, like how she did a 180 on maternity leave after she benefitted from it

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[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

one of the Right's argument against LGBTQ acceptance is that it was a sliding slope that would lead to acceptance of paedophilia and eventually to zoophillia. Well here we are, and the Right, to protect their orange leader, is saying that sex with children is ok, as long as they aren't babies....ugh

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[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 42 points 3 weeks ago

She said, groomingly.

[–] thefunkycomitatus@hexbear.net 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh I see. It's more of a common man's pedophilia like American Beauty. It's not really an elitist pedophilia like True Detective.

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[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 39 points 3 weeks ago

15 isn't even barely not legal lmfao what the FUCK how do you just say this out loud!

[–] Tychoxii@hexbear.net 37 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)
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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 29 points 3 weeks ago

Next step is saying that Trump was into 17yo, so barely ilegal.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago

Tomorrow: there's a big difference between 12 and 5

Next week: there's a big difference between 8 and 5

Week after that: there's a big difference between 5 and 3

[–] JoshsJunkDrawer@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's no going back. We all know that, right? This is the new normal. This is life forever more now.

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

We can totally go back. 20 years ago, this was normal. Hell, 20 years ago there was a public countdown timer for when Emma Watson turned 18. And relatively recently, that kind of thing gets cited as an example of how crazy attitudes were in the very recent past.

Some people are trying to make it normal again. They're attempting to recreate the past. Re-enacting it. Reactionaries. I personally don't think they're gonna succeed... but, even if they do, well, the past became the present. Sensibilities that changed for the worse can also change for the better again. After all, that's what happened the first time round.

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[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hilarious (agony-shivering) that the "technically it's not pedophilia" gang never seems to conclude that it's still wrong lmao.

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[–] nothx@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you

I fucking hate these people so fucking much omg

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[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Wow turns out SRS making fun of ephebophilia was of and a decade ahead of its time

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

Who's the ghoul on the right with the necklace?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batya_Ungar-Sargon

Her political views are either a psyop, useful idiot or randomized confused western chauvinist. Hard to pin it on just one of these.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

Manufacturing Consent smh

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago

yeah the difference is if they touch a 5 year old they're getting beaten to death and a 15 year old should have some input on what justice is.

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