The realm needs good comrades, ser Dunk the Tank.

The realm needs good comrades, ser Dunk the Tank.

Let's start over but also this is probably my last post on the subject since I don't feel like having a drawn out argument about fraternities of all things.
Regardless of what OP posted, who OP is, what country they're from, where their allegiances lie, etc etc. I am arguing that Europe (France, Germany, Spain, UK) has scholastic organizations (ie organizations centered around school life) that center on networking, brotherhood, community service, and possibly spirituality or religion. That's their public face. In their private face, they have a lot of partying, drinking, drug use, sex, hazing, and general anti-social behaviors. What these orgs are actually called in their specific regional dialects I don't know. What percentage of the populations of each country is a member, I also don't know. I'm not the person who brought up the 70% figure but I agree that the vibe is "a lot." These European student orgs are comparable to American fraternities. The similarities begin and end with them all being student social organizations dedicated to networking, partying, and being a social terror wherever they are located.
American frats do not center on student housing a specific major goal. It's a perk of some frats to have a dedicated house on or off campus known as a "frat house." It's not a requirement that frats provide housing, free or otherwise. Students who stay at frat houses may still be required to pay for it or the rent may be covered by alumni. All students are generally required by universities to live on campus their first year or two, in dormitories provided by the school. Students pay rent for the dorms. I don't know if European schools work this way but regardless it doesn't radically change the other similarities between Europe and the US frats.
Frat is short for fraternity or fraternal order. There are non-scholastic fraternal orders in the US and Europe. I am not talking about those. I am specifically talking about university-aged people at a school. I do not believe in my heart of hearts that European teenagers at uni are less drunken daterapist dudebros than American teens. The attitude that, as a European, it's "their drunken dudebros" vs "our urbane students", is exactly the problem.
I'm not ignoring what you write. You edited your post while i was writing the previous one. I'm not itemizing your posts and replying line by line. You said the OP is talking about hazing in a frat, I too posted about hazing in a frat. You said American frats seem more common and I said it seems that way because we're more homogeneous and the media focuses on it. I replied directly to what you said.
Yes and dangerous hazing rituals exist in European fraternities. It may seem more widespread in the US because the US is more homogeneous than the group of European countries. Plus the media like movies and all push it to the front.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Sanda_Dia
The hazing was a ritual of the Reuzegom fraternity at KU Leuven
Also the reason why you don't see more German fraternities is WWII. They know it's not a good look: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/31/austria-dissolve-fraternity-linked-far-right-freedom-party-songbook
A group of young white guys networking, drinking, and hazing each other is not unique to the US and I don't even know why it's being suggested as such. At best they're not as common because people in Europe seem to have a sense of the common good and will ban them. But they do exist. It's not about them being the exact same because obviously cultural distinctions exist. Just because Burschenschaft dresses it up as Medieval sword duels doesn't mean it's not a similar thing.
I replied to the thread. It's a response to the topic at hand. It's not a DM to OP.
OP isn't the only one in this thread
Europs and Britons when seeing a relic of distinctly European culture in the US:

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You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.