I was the last one to incite a debate about Hasan on this site, and this was the comment that reframed my thinking positively.
Fuck Hasan π
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i DON'T CARE about the streamer
I watch Hasan to learn how to talk to libs about current political events. His own politics flawed but he has really impressive communicative skills nonetheless.
Hasan saved me from being a life long lib and convinced me to vote for Platner- I'm actually planning on getting a similar tattoo in solidarity.
don't forget to get a job at blackwater!
Hey that's me, mooooom get the camera
To add to what you've originally said, pipelines only work if average people can't connect the two ends of the pipeline. There's a reason why the opening end of the fascist pipeline is Andrew Tate and Nick Fuentes instead of some blue eyes blonde hair Odin-worshipping freak named Olaf Henriksen. Tate being a brown Muslim and Fuentes being a (gay?) Latino is why they're at one end of the pipeline while the Olaf Henriksens are at the other end. The Olaf Henriksens shitting on Tate and Fuentes for being [racial slurs] who are ruining white nationalism because they're [racial slurs] play their part since normal people are going to be more easily fooled by the Tates and Fuentes going, "If you think I'm a white supremacist, you should read what actual white nationalists like Olaf Henriksen say about me. I'm just a normal guy like you who can't stand the wokes and the [trans slur] and I wanna do something about it. Will you join me?"
not now ma i'm postin'
The ultimate irony is that if you buy into the idea of hiding your power level^TM^ or the pipeline^TM^, then you pretty much need people shitting on Hasan for being a lib. Otherwise, people are going to wonder why every single vaguely communisty person and org seem to support this dude who is totally not a commie. Imagine if every single vaguely socialisty org from CPUSA to PSL to ACP all pat Hasan on the back going "he's our guy." Normal people are going to start asking reasonable questions like "is Hasan a communist?" And just like how some dude going, "I'm not a fascist. I have never said anything remotely fascist" is completely unconvincing if every single fascist loser likes the dude, no one is going to buy Hasan going "I just want free healthcare, bruh" if every single person who wants more than free healthcare gives him the thumbs up.
This is assuming you believe in the pipeline^TM^. If you don't, you can shit on Hasan for having garbage politics lol
Reposting from another thread: Hasan has a place in the pipeline for the growing disenchantment liberals are feeling.
I appreciate his work but he really is custom made for clueless soon-to-be baby leftist Americans.
Bingo! Hasan knows his audience, and he is the biggest funnel for a Left pipeline. If he became more dogmatic the funnel would narrow. Leftism is like vegetables for somebody that only ever ate corporate junk food. All the arguments about health or being natural do not work with picky eaters. Forcing them to eat their vegetables is a straight road to failure. Sometimes you need to cover their veggies up with cheese mornay or salad dressing to make it more palatable.
I literally have to embody this meme to get any traction.
In my experience you need to babywalk liberals into Leftist positions, inch by painful inch, and let me tell you it takes a while for things to sink in. If they feel you are being dogmatic they stop listening :wall-talk: It happened to me during the George Floyd protests where I was too hot too quickly about the police and it turned off the people I was reaching out to. I have since softened up my delivery so when the :amerikkka: state goons executed Good and Pretti those ideas landed far better.
Hasan is the softball leftist that baby liberals can swallow without immediately throwing up, and from that crack I can trojan even more leftist theory. I do the same thing with Trump using the liberal anger at him and Democracts as a breach in the defenses for more radical ideas. I am using war against Iran right now as a vehicle for introducing historical US foreign policy. I do it with people like John Oliver or Jon Stewart, despite both being absolute libs, because they are just palatable enough to form a crack that I can use, especially against the police. Same with NPR or PBS despite being literally funded by the State.
I am not arguing for anybody to abandon their position. Let that be your anchor as you are slowly guide others towards your position. Drip feed some counter-arguments as they come up.
Maybe he is, like me, a sophist, who doesn't let beliefs get in the way of getting the job done. He's many times noted how with some hogs, certain arguments that might not be the best (e.g. we shouldn't bomb Iran because it is in the service of Israel might be more effective than we shouldn't be doing imperialism full stop). That ability to shapeshift is valuable as long as it's broadly done in the service of left principles without compromising on things like genocide.
The most policing he does is on leftists who are so detached they've lost the ability to communicate/pipeline liberals. Which, in a space like his, is acceptable. Once you're on hexbear, go fucking ham with the esoteric left critiques and struggle sessions, but when trying to pipeline liberals in your org a softer and more contingent touch is required.
He literally lies about Lenin to convince people to vote for democrats. That is not a pipeline to the left. That is diverting people who were heading left towards his friends in the democratic party. The fact he screams at anyone who tries to point out that he is misrepresenting Lenin makes it clear this is a deliberate strategy, I imagine this is because if he wasn't serving the democrats he would lose access to them.
He is an active, deliberate impediment to the left.
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From my perspective I recommend Hasan to certain people at certain points so he can handle the right side of the meme, and I can meet people closer to the left side. saves me energy that way.
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I genuinely don't understand why anytime Hexbear has something to talk about we're not allowed to talk about it. I say that as a mod too. It's kind of maddening. Let the people fight and learn and grow and ban the ones who can't do it respectfully it is that easy
The creator of the last thread deleted it, I guess they didn't like us talking about it.
I don't really respect the move, but it worked out since this thread provokes a better discussion about Hasan's substance rather than starting from "I'm annoyed about something that hasn't happened yet".
They were from .ml, I guess they can't take all the heat in the bear cave. 
They're a regular Hexbear user, especially the news mega.
You shouldn't be allowed to delete your post if people have already commented on it
Ah, the way of the warrior 
a true poster I see.
~~It caps or destroys the productive value of other posters' labor~~. 
It violates the NAP.
The subject of how important media is to the cause, if media consumption is politically transformative, where media careerism fits into practical strategy, etc are all good questions worth exploring as a community. Media consumption is one of the biggest issues for leftists online (or online leftists?) and we never talk about from the outside. It's always something boiling under the surface of these spontaneous slap-fights. We should start having structured discussions on issues that so many seem to care about.
Since we live in a world where people can make a career out of presenting socialist ideas to the world, we should probably address how that fits into a socialist movement. I can understand the USSR not getting too in-depth about radio as mass media. They didn't conceptualize it that way because it hadn't turned into this reality-defining commodity that has been for the past few generations. Anyone trying to do movement building in 2026 needs to address it in a formal, rigorous way.
I think what a lot of people miss about Hasan is that he is acutely aware that that is his role to play. He talked about it a little bit when he was on the Deprogram.
A lot of people miss it because they don't watch him (which is extremely OK, and maybe even good). Many also seem to ignore people who explain this in every thread, so we are always at the same starring point instead of developing better criticisms and viewpoints.
i get the sense that a lot of people here have been burned by people like contrapoints and are suspicious of The Pipeline because of it
i'm in a bubble i'm sure but people that liked her old decent for the moment stuff dropped her over NBphobia and/or associating with Clinton.
True, as people should be, Contra is one of the tumours that prevents people from going further left
Its great to be suspicious and critical! The starting point of that conversation must be grounded in fact!
Nobody even has to like the guy at all, but the question needs to be "how do we use him/his community?"
"He is a lib and gave Bernie a pass" is almost there, but even then I often see it posted to dismiss any further conversation.
Exactly. People expect perfectly Marxist Leninist takes from someone whose explicit purpose is to shove berniebros into the pipeline to socialism. Not only is he an individual and therefore flawed, but also he purposefully engages within the overton window to an extent
going to remind people that Hasan repeatedly makes homophobic jokes and never challenges the narrative on Ukraine.
Extremely valid on the jokes and worth mentioning.
On Ukraine (also worth mentioning) I think he gives some challenge, but I he doesn't really make it a principled rhetorical stand and tbh I kind of agree with that in some ways.
Maybe I'm projecting but I think he leans into "this war sucks ass, NATO baited it and Putin shouldn't have taken the bait, and fuck all this" or something in that region. I sort of do the same when talking to most people, cause I don't think it does that much for me to go to bat for Russia. Pointing out the responsibility NATO has is already very expensive with liberals.
Easier to go to bat for Palestine and Iran in full force because they have obviously been shafted by the US/empire/global north innso many ways.
To me there is a great shift in liberal discourse. It is very acceptable to be pro Palestine. It is still not acceptable to be anti NATO. To me it is very important to deconstruct the MIC and NATO in the way that itβs been done with Israel in the past years.
Watched his stream for the first time in years this last week due to recent events and he was actively comparing the Russia's actions in the Ukraine conflict to that of the blunders being carried out by the U.S and israel with Iran, never heard anything critical of the media portrayal
I think I know what you men and yeah that's what I would expect. He's not putting a lot of brain cells on it cause like I mentioned in the other comments, he doesn't see it as super important to bring up for discussion with his audience, and I don't think he thinks about it as much as other topics.
yeah i don't think the ukraine discussion is very productive with most libs since you have to do a bunch of 
shit to explain everything.
Palestine and anti-attacking-Iran are way easier and way more people are amenable to it.
woke of the day is cringe
Whenever the arguments start about him, I always have to remind myself that he started his media/talking head career as the TYT nepo nephew. He has amazing politics when you compare him to Cenk and Ana (and their trajectories they took).
"Actually if you have a nuanced position on ~~China~~ Hasan you are a cultist ~~tankie~~ lib"
incite* a debate
jeez I don't know why I'm being so annoying lately. I'm stressed out
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