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The guy who did Clone Wars, the Boook of Boba Fett, and other memberberries StarWars media is rumored to have disliked Andor. He's also the guy taking over as co-president of LucasFilm after the evil SJW woman stepped down.

And Kennedy did give Gilroy the go-ahead for “Andor,” a series that charts the title character in the run-up to the events of “Rogue One” that saw star Diego Luna return. The series, a stark spy thriller about how tyranny takes root, is unquestionably the greatest creative triumph of the Kennedy era. It was also, according to an individual who worked inside Lucasfilm, a series that Filoni disliked. A Lucasfilm spokesperson denied this as inaccurate.

When we were talking about The Last Jedi a week or two ago, I said that after TLJ, "they" would make sure nobody ever challenges Star Wars fans with new ideas again. This just kind of cements it.

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[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 22 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

i mean, before starting Andor I was completely fatigued on the entire franchise. so much SW slop had come out after disney took over. i had kind of assumed disney would do better, because lucas himself is such a clown.... it could only get better, right? then Mandalorian was a series of John Ford style cinematic stills with a cute toy. Obi Wan was an interesting antagonist and Ewan phoning it all the way in. it was absurd, because they got talented actors (except that MMA transphobe) for these things, but the stories were just bleghhh. like i didn't care. nothing ever went anywhere. it was all just toy commercials and fan service.

empire? republic? i just wanna grill. grillman

then i watch Andor on a bored whim, and i'm hooked immediately. two asshole rent-a-cops get pissed in a brothel and try to shake a guy down, only to get done dirty in a dark alley by the no-fucks guy. fucking Syril and his custom-tailored uniform for the private security corporation, what a perfectly all-too-real asshole! suddenly the star wars galaxy was living again. and, as it turns out, the empire fucking SUCKS so hard, it eventually drives even the most burned out, checked out cynic into a radicalized fanatic. but it's so good it overshoots the mark. instead of rejuvenating my interest in the franchise after i finish, i realize the execution of storytelling in SW has always mostly ever been very childish trash and that this would likely never be allowed to happen again.

i think there will be a faction of SW heads that come to hate Andor, because they can't really grasp what it did or how it did it, but they know it made nearly everything else look bad.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

i think there will be a faction of SW heads that come to hate Andor, because they can't really grasp what it did or how it did it, but they know it made nearly everything else look bad.

They are the people that fail to understand that Star Wars is only ever good when its stories are firmly depicting a leftist revolutionary story. Nothing the franchise creates lands properly without that grounding in reality. Even the prequels which were poorly executed land better than the slop Disney made until Andor because they're still built upon a foundation of leftist storytelling in which they're criticising how liberalism falls to fascism (and was shit before the fascism too).

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

season 1 of mando was good compared to the previous 25 years of movies and a lot of the books and games weren't directly about the rebellion.

lucas should've spent more time with his wife in the 80s, we could've had good prequels.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes but I put that down to Mando apeing space westerns so much that it mostly ends up feeling like Cowboy Bebop which is itself a criticism of space capitalism that is very leftist. Whether that was intentional or not I don't know. I'm not sure you can make space western at all without it coming off as a criticism of capitalism but I've not thought about the topic hard enough to put into words why, I just can't imagine space westerns without the subtle critique of the absolutely horrible setting they exist in.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 3 points 12 hours ago

yeah i think there's an inherent libertine element to the federal government being far away, even when a western is about a cop fighting bandits.

somebody could do a white man's burden or a "the railroad brings civilization to the frontier wilderness" but i'd debate that such stories would stop being usefully called westerns

[–] thefunkycomitatus@hexbear.net 6 points 14 hours ago

The ultimate sin of Andor was that it wasn't StarWars^TM^ enough. It didn't revolve around space magic or reinstating a royal bloodline. The sacred and noble Republic was ineffectual and easily manipulated. It also didn't have dozens of widely known characters show up and be integral throughout the series. It had some Rogue One cameos, for obvious reasons, and then some prequel people but only because it made sense for them to be around. I can criticize Andor for being an attempt to get people to take Star Wars seriously as a setting and brand (we can do serious Game of Thrones style political intrigue too!). But I also think it completely undermined the Filoni/Favreau approach. Favreau's take was okay at the start, a simple (perhaps overly so) story about a backwater merc on an escort mission with a SW licensed Furby. But it too started to get bogged down with cameos and higher stakes.

Kennedy is a corpo through and through so I don't want to spend too much time defending her. To her, I think she saw SW as a brand and just wanted it to make money. She approved different attempts to that end but she wasn't ideological in terms of fanboyism. That's a big reason she was hated, outside of being a woman in charge of nerd IP. Filoni is definitely a SW zealot. It's a huge part of his life and career. He's never going to rightfully criticize the series or let it be criticized. Andor and TLJ were willing to put Star Wars in its place and try to build something from that.

I think, most of all, I just really hate how Star Wars has become integrated into the American mythos and it's become so large that it has its own political structure (in real life, not in-universe) with factions and shit.