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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 47 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm just curious how many different military forces the government actually needs? They keep making up new ones.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 37 points 5 months ago (2 children)

i dunno, maybe they're hoping inter-service rivalry and poorly defined scopes will allow leadership to play off the various armed forces against each other, the way hitler used to with the heer, the luftwaffe, the SS and so on

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What is the benefit of this? Lowering the risk of a military coup?

[–] huf@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

possibly? or at least it may be a way to prevent any of them from capturing the leadership (like the praetorian guard would often).

or it may just be somehow the nature of fascism. i dunno.

come to think of it, did all fascist countries do this? did mussolini? did franco? did south korea? japan? so maybe it's got nothing to do with fascism.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Mussolini did it with the blackshirts and the army, Japan had an absurd level of rivalry between the army and the navy. Franco, on the other hand, pretty successfully integrated together the army and various feuding militias. Maybe that's why he managed to win, unlike most other fascists.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

well, he also didnt start a war with the entire world, unlike the others. he wanted spain, and when he got it, he sat on it. franco knew when to quit.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

He negotiated with Germany about joining WWII, but didn't like their conditions.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

Japan had an absurd level of rivalry between the army and the navy

Didn't they lose some critical battle specifically because they weren't sharing intelligence or something like that

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

Or like the entire us millitary + 8’telligence apparatus in Syria

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wonder when Trump will announce SPACE ICE.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

SPICE. Marine ice would be MICE. Gotta workshop what the air ice would be though

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

The personal military of RFKhorne Jr.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago
[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

THE SPICE MUST FLOW.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Apropos of nothing, I wonder where they store all this stuff...

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago
[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

Apropos of nothing

Indeed.

[–] 10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I wonder what big arms are. Litteral tanks?

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dem congresspeople: "According to this information. ICE purchased attack helicopters, RPGs, tanks, fighter j—"

ICE: "Yeah. So?"

Dem congresspeople: "Why do you need this matériel for immigration enforcement?"

ICE: "'Cause we do. God Bless America and all that crap."

Dem congresspeople: "Oh."

[–] 10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We need defensive nukes to protect ourself from all those latino waiting in front of home depot.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I saw an old lady selling wheels of homemade goat cheese out of a styrofoam cooler. I called Super ICE. The blast could be seen with the naked eye from the moon.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If it can't be seen with the naked eye from Pluto, it didn't happen

[–] 10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

get out of here with your fake planet ahah

[–] FidelChadstro@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Basically. things that need more than small arms to carry them

[–] SupFBI@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Gonna be great seeing ICE vehicles stuck in sinkholes and crushed by collapsed bridges thanks to the US's neglected, crumbling infrastructure.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

Crew serve at the smallest, like 50. cal machine guns and MK19 automatic grenade launchers.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

Really, really depends on definition used but a good rule of thumb is small arms can be carried and used by one person (sometimes up to 3) and heavy weapons is anything that requires non-human-propulsion to get anywhere

[–] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In what world would ICE need a fucking guided missile?

[–] tidalwave@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago