It's the only ideology that thinks Charlie Kirk is important enough to assassinate. To the left he's an annoyance but there are much bigger Charlie Kirks than Charlie Kirk. TPUSA is so far down the list of things creating fascism. To liberals he's apparently baby Jesus. To republicans he's an asset. Only right-wing accelerationists have a motive because they're the only freaks who shoot up anything and anyone thinking it will spark a civil war. He makes a good sacrificial lamb if your goal is to make right-wingers rabidly homicidal or invite a fascist crackdown, but for everyone else he's just a generic influencer and punching bag.
Chapotraphouse
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Slop posts go in c/slop. Don't post low-hanging fruit here.
Yeah the last time someone on the left did some adventurism in the US, it was attempting to take out the GOP majority whip. Actual high-value target.
wasn't that guy basically a bernie lib too? if i start hearing about defense and fossil fuel execs getting domed i'll start thinking actual leftist
I had him grouped in the meme-tier with crowder and tim pool, but after seeing all this I think he was actually a level or two above them. Probably above Shapiro but below, say, Tucker Carlson; notably Shapiro is on the decline and Kirk was apparently on the ascent.
But yeah I think most of the left was on the same page, just thinking of him as an unremarkable media bigot who looked slightly uncanny.
Ben never realized his ascent had a terminal arc in the right wing world because he’s too Jewish. Dude is level capped.
Dude is level capped.
"Dawg it's a yarmulke, homie no cap" -- Shabibo in that one rap video
I think he's also too normal? Or like the wrong type of weirdo? He's a briefcase-at-school kid in a world of irony-poisioned 4-chan fascists. He no longer appeals to anyone under 40.
If it had been Dave Rubin or some twitch streamer or that antisemitic Times Square Elmo they'd have probably reacted the same. The right-wing response to his death seems like it's more opportunistic than genuine, while the liberal response is the kind of shit they say about any generic republican who dies. It's hard to judge the staying power in the moment, especially if the media downplays the seemingly fascist shooter and limits the news cycles this makes.
He was a white house insider but I don't know what degree of influence he actually had there because he himself was just a generic meat puppet for his billionaire funders. As a media figure I more or less forgot he existed until last week when I saw a DSA post about his tour. As far as I know there wasn't even going to be a counter-protest, just an alternative event which would have drawn a larger crowd. The cultural relevancy of those is stuck in the 2010s and now we have terms like "debate pervert" to stereotype his brand of Guy. Even the memes about him were stuck in 2018 and limited to small face+diaper. I'd consider him more relevant than Dave Rubin or Stephen Crowder, but a C-tier influencer compared to Ben Shapiro/Tucker Carlson/Alex Jones/Joe Rogan/streamers. What little I saw of his media presence anymore felt like decade-old boomer slop.
Even between those A-tier influencers, none of them seem individually important enough for a leftist to target. Shapiro is on the decline, Tucker is deplatformed, Alex Jones is a donkey of the week for one of my favourite podcasts, and their streamers keep getting outed as paedophiles. Any other culture warrior name I can think of is just some dipshit who will be replaced tomorrow by another dipshit saying the same things they've been saying since the 1930s.
This was my first thought upon hearing the news, too. It took me a second to even remember why I knew the name, and once I did, I was confused as to why he’d be an obsession for anyone.
Yes, his rhetoric was awful, but at the end of the day, he was just another troll at the troll factory.
Gropyer on groyper violence. They're still going to blame us anyway, just like they blame all school shootings on trans folk.
Every shooting should be presumed to be a right-winger, because they have, so far, been the only ones putting numbers on the board.
at least we got The Adjuster
Well, if we believe in Mangione, it was a tech bro that took the various forms of utilitarianism a little too seriously and not as a pretense to say that their involvement in AI made them the most consequential people ever since trillions of future lives rely on them doing it right.
People really tried to compare kirk to MLK. Mindbendingly stupid country.
Nobody will be talking about Kirk by next week, let alone in 57 years.
It's funny because Kirk hated MLK
“MLK was awful,” Kirk said. “He's not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe.”
“I have a very, very radical view on this, but I can defend it, and I’ve thought about it,” Kirk said at America Fest. “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.”
Just saw a video of Utah's governer talking about he was praying that shooter was from another state or another country because he wanted to be able to say "We don't do that here".
Guy gets shot in your state and your first thought is, "I hope this doesn't reflect badly on the church". That'd be one thing if you kept that to yourself. But do go and admit that on television? Damn. Never change Mormons.
Lol even state governors are just doing the "damn, hope he wasn't one of ours "
Hating Charlie Kirk because he wasn't conservative enough sounds like something my brother would say lol
So the bullets were misdirection then ig?
Whatever who gives a shit
New player class just dropped, cop priest
mfw you sentence your own child to death because you're such a bootlicking loser
That's Mormons for you
"I'm a good boy"
When I say that Mormons are one of the most dangerous and insipid elements of USAan life, a lot of people think I'm weird, but they're not good folks
They will be one of the strongest opponents to a revolutionary force that emerges in the States
dad's a snitch lmao
Worse: he's a retired cop.
I feel like I need to tell my son I will never snitch on him now
If you see ~~someone~~ your son ~~shoplifting~~ assassinating a right wing media figure, no you didnt
no, they were a function of an internet-poisoned mind, a 4chan tier shitpost
cop priest
You mean paladins?
Want to know how I knew? It's simple.
Leftists actually obey the law, despite being the law's harshest critics.
two minutes after posting "Be gay Do crime" I used my blinker and looked both ways before making an unprotected left turn
why dont gays run over bicyclists in their lifted pickup trucks if they love crime so much?
because that's legal
riding bicycles is gay as fuck and you don't do friendly fire
me, standing at a completely empty intersection obediently waiting for green light:
Groyper shoots Kirk
How can the rabid Left do this to him!
the american empire will be destroyed by the american empire. Same with Israel. The tragedy is the innocent people that get caught up in the fascist death drive.
I thought "if you're reading this you're gay lmao" was too vaguely homophobic South Park humor for a leftist to use
Call coming from inside the house!
What’s funny is you can’t really become a leftist without understanding enough theory to realize Propaganda of the Deed is a dead end. I don’t know if I’d be bold enough to call it counter revolutionary but for a revolutionary in the modern age it should not be undertaken. This is not 1878, you can’t just shoot a mine boss, and it’s not like we’re living in a global communist utopia because that shit works. It didn’t.
So basically when these murderjunkies pop off the odds of them actually being a leftist are slim to none. You might have a person who is dabbling in leftism or festoons themselves in hammers and sickles but that’s just some bandwagoning, really. You might have a radical liberal who is radicalized along a conventionally “left” vector like gay rights or abortion access but those aren’t really “left” opinions.
Which leaves us with the elephant in the room: the right wing stochastic terror machine and its apparatchiks.
The Right always eats its own
Tartar Control Hitler taking out Hitler Dry while avoiding Raspberry Hitler
I tried to find any other sources that corroborate that tweet, but I couldn't and journalists like Klippenstein are also asking that in the replies. Of course It would 100% not surprise me if he was revealed to be a groyper, but on the other hand considering how incoherent some of these kids' ideologies are these days, could it be like (I think he had some odd stuff with like rationalism and effective altruism(?)) who also was beyond internet-pilled from the engraved bullets? I could be wrong here but for some reason I had that remembered together when reading up about him).
Don't like that fascists are stealing our jokes when they kill each other. I don't mind them killing each other, but stay out of our joke pile.
Assuming that what is posted here is accurate. At this point I don't know. But I do support just assuming the guy is a nazi and absolutely refusing any evidence otherwise when talking to the right.