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[–] tomiant@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago

Also, maybe 8 billion is "enough". Not breeding is only a problem for the economy. Capitalism needs perpetual growth, there is no end game, just more, of everything, forever.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The birth rate moral panic is 100% manufactured by neoliberal capitalists who simultaneously want high consumption and low wages, which is a logical impossibilty. You cannot have a consumerist society where the average consumer lives paycheck to paycheck

[–] tomiant@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

It's only because capitalism demands it. I am tired of people who think we need more people on this planet, we most certainly do not. There is nothing we can't do with 8 billion of us that we can do with 8 billion plus 1.

[–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

I beg to differ; you can definitely have that society; proof is: we are currently living in it!

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If it's neoliberalism, why is the right always clamouring about it? I think you are misguided on your aim my friend. You are also right, the time of us having things and enjoying our leisure are in the process of being erased for the good old days of company towns and food lines.

[–] DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

The "right" shy of outright fascists are neoliberals. The term was coined in the eighties and describes a system that like Liberalism classic works primarily off of an idea of a protected class of citizen (as opposed to lesser protected classes of non-citizen) with a series of fundemental "rights" to basic protected freedoms from government interference and choice of "style of life" based around a personal property centric system.

Where Neo-liberalism differs is it detests the welfare state, seeks widespread government deregulation as they see it as an economic deficit, practice widespread government austerity in public programs and seeks to privatize swaths of government services to create new market sectors.

Neo doesn't mean new in a "of the minute" kind of way. The people who came up with the distinction between liberal branches were describing the likes of Ronald Regan and Margret Thatcher.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean you're half right. In a zoo, the keepers care for their animals, making sure they're well fed, enriched, and healthy.

We're being farmed. They are using us to make money from our produce (labour). They're using us to make money. We're so over exploited we simply cannot afford to have children.

[–] droans@midwest.social 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A man must always live by his work, and his wages must at least be sufficient to maintain him. They must even upon most occasions be somewhat more; otherwise it would be impossible for him to bring up a family, and the race of such workmen could not last beyond the first generation...

Every species of animals naturally multiplies in proportion to the means of their subsistence, and no species can ever multiply beyond it. But in civilised society it is only among the inferior ranks of people that the scantiness of subsistence can set limits to the further multiplication of the human species; and it can do so in no other way than by destroying a great part of the children which their fruitful marriages produce.

The liberal reward of labour, by enabling them to provide better for their children, and consequently to bring up a greater number, naturally tends to widen and extend those limits. It deserves to be remarked, too, that it necessarily does this as nearly as possible in the proportion which the demand for labour requires. If this demand is continually increasing, the reward of labour must necessarily encourage in such a manner the marriage and multiplication of labourers, as may enable them to supply that continually increasing demand by a continually increasing population.

  • Adam Smith, the father of capitalism
[–] Zentron@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

They hate Smith almost as much as Marx

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

I wish I could feel comfortable bringing children into the world.

I really want to be a parent in my life

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I love this person's glasses.

[–] gingersaffronapricat@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago
[–] toad31@lemmy.cif.su 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I don't want to bring kids in this world that will inevitably grow up with a father when I take out all my frustration and grievances on members of the ruling class.

They're gonna wish I used a guillotine.

[–] HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Proud owner of a tubal litigation here

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm genuinely afraid to get vasectomy, thinking "this is just a phase and l might change my mind later"

[–] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

I suffer post vasectomy pain syndrome that comes and goes randomly over the pass of months, and still, it worth.

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