Slop.

It's not really a secret china's military is exceptionally incompetent and poorly trained/ran.

getting strong denialist "these women will die for Rhodesia" vibes

I don't have a horse in that race, but as they say, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. So fuck ukronazis.

i'd like to bring up the UAE Swat competition, which is a sports contest between the world's most elite piggies to see who the best donut eater is. It's been going on since 2019 and China regularly dominates, usually with multiple teams in the top 10. It's not exactly the PLA or anything, but I think it's revealing to compare different paramilitaries.

A Chinese team ended up with first place in 2025's contest whereas the best funded paramilitary in the world, the NYPD, scored...84th.

In October of 2021 a US Sub operating in the south China sea was disabled and forced to surface at which point it slowly limped back to guam. The official story is that it struck an object, but i remember at the time that it was near a Chinese Naval Base, and was being tailed by Chinese planes as it fled. People speculated China had disabled it. Afterwards the subs captain was relieved of duty.

Another thing to note is that it does appear as though the Chinese Type 55 destroyer is the most effective Destroyer currently being fielded by any nation. It is similar to a new type of destroyer the US had been trying to field, but had to give up on because it was too expensive to get it working. They threw so much money at it too lol.

The Chinese are also making good progress, and have been spotted doing test flights of a new medium range fighter bomber with 3 engines that could theoretically sink a US Aircraft Carrier.

On top of that simulations show China able to sink a US Carrier Group with nothing but land based hypersonic missiles. These same missiles can be launched by their new plane.

It's also important to note that the US was forced into a ceasefire with the Houthis who are the military of the poorest country on earth lol. If Yemen can do that idk what China could do but i can't imagine it would go well for the US. Considering Taiwan is armed, and trained by the US, and is reliant on them militarily that seems pretty relevant to this.

You even have literal US military leadership sounding the alarm that they are eating into their stockpiles of weapons. In their statement calling China the "most capable potential adversary in the world"

I mean the truth is that China would probably have issues at the start of a major conflict if one broke out, but that would be because they haven't been fighting wars constantly for the last forty years so there's institutional knowledge that the PLA just doesn't have.

But that said China is also well aware of this institutional knowledge problem, and regularly tries to negate it, ie by hiring retired American military pilots to come and train the PLAAF ones. It's impossible to say whether that makes up for the gap or not until a peer conflict actually breaks out.

edit: plus the last time China fought America they achieved all of their military goals and forced us to sign a peace treaty and that was seventy years ago when they were still way behind technologically so

Le epic Finnish Nazis which totally didn't eat shit

I won't say there are literally zero lessons, but the tactical and strategic circumstances between ukraine/russia and taiwan/china are so immensely different that it really gives the impression that this person thinks that war is conducted via vibes.

America has lost more wars in the last hundred years than China has even been in

Finland ate shit. The Finland myth is so braindead. Maybe in the not too distant future we'll get a Ukraine myth.

"it's not really a secret china's military is exceptionally incompetent"

translation: "i've seen multiple people on reddit claim this, and i took it on as my opinion. i think this counts as gaining knowledge. doing this has deluded me into thinking i'm an expert on literally everything, which is why i'm talking about this in the first place. i work at sears, what the fuck do i actually know about any of this? believe it or not; everything."

Ukraine's model of begging for materiel and choking on graft

23.6 million people with #22 gdp can easily beat 1.4 billion people with #2 gdp militarily wdym

How are these people gonna cope when Ukraine loses everything and Russia makes virtually no concessions?

Kids playing pretend in the sandbox

I mean it doesn't look good when a Philippines coast guard vessel essentially gets a "maneuver kill" on a Chinese Navy destroyer and Chinese coast guard vessel, with both Chinese ships colliding into each other while chasing down the Philippines ship. That's an embarrassing mistake that is on China, of course redditors are going to use the opportunity to gloat even if it's not grounded in facts. We'd do the same if two US Navy ships collided.

anyone who says "west taiwan" has the history and geography knowledge of a kindergartener. call the US "west british isles" and see how they react

oh lord the comments.

person doing their job does the normal professional courteous human thing

weirdo who has chinese hatebrain: "haha!! so fucking owned!! i assume the whole world hates china because i was told to!!"

This is something you dont challenge them on and see where it leads

I do wonder how people in the west will react when their nations do actually start a war with China. The way they act it is obvious they think it'll be like a colonial war from the 1800s where soldiers will just charge in and "shoot the savages"

So I wonder how they will react to seeing news of Chinese ships sinking the US fleet, China has actively built their navy to counter the US, so any actual battles will almost certainly result in a Chinese victory. Will they just insist that because half a dozen Chinese whitewater craft were sunk, it means that the US won the battle even though they lost 3-4 aircraft carriers in the process? Will the US just stay out of range of Chinese ships and fire the occasional potshot, which the western media apparatus will claim was a "devastating blow" to the Chinese? Will they just ignore reality entirely and make up a fictional narrative about China being "on the ropes" even as the US military completely collapses? It's one thing to have that sort of attitude towards a war in Ukraine, where it is far away enough for them to never notice any material consequences of the conflict, but the US going directly to war with China will make it too hard to hide losses from the public, even during the Iraq war, the media apparatus failed to properly keep a lid on everything that was going on, and this war will be orders of magnitude bigger. I do wonder if these people will simply declare reality itself to be Chinese propaganda, even when faced with it directly.

china bad huehuehue updoot!

Liberals speak like this IRL too, btw. Very cringe.