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What if the US pours another ten billion dollars into making two planes and a battleship? They're loaded to the gills with wunderwaffen designed by six companies, manufactured in eighteen different states and assembled in another twelve.
Ten billion is lay money. If you want the US to REALLY win you need to spend 1.7 trillion and be 10 years late. https://fortune.com/longform/lockheed-martin-f-35-fighter-jet/
Ignore the fact that these "biggest success story" planes have been falling into the red sea.
That's per unit assembly cost, not r&d
oh true lol thats almost worse
The F-35s didn't "fall into the Red Sea", no idea where you're getting that from.
The F-35 very effective platform, which is exactly why China is making their own version, the J-35. Which China will, as they should, proudly show off during the military parade. This is a major accomplishment for China. The technology that goes into building such an aircraft is incomprehensible to most, and China has accomplished this. Europe hasn't, Russia hasn't, but China has.
Thats my bad i thought it was F-35s but it was F-18 super hornets
I've found two examples of F-35's falling off of aircraft carriers, actually.
One in January fell into the Red Sea, and it looks like the British lost one in 2021?
Those were F/A-18s, not F-35s, with regards to Red Sea incidents. Three F/A-18s were lost, one to friendly fire, one fell of the USS Harry Truman aircraft carrier while under evasive maneuvers, and one had an arrestor hook failure. All of this occured while under fire from the Ansarallah/Houthis.
The F-35C "lost in January", was in January of 2022, on the USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier in the South China Sea.
The UK has lost F-35Bs, the vertical/short take off and landing version, from their smaller aircraft carriers, in the Mediterranean.
Via incident rates, the F-35 is safer and has had less incidents than the 4th generation aircraft it replaces. A lot of people don't know this, but the "media darling" F-14 Tomcat that everyone thinks is the greatest thing ever because of Top Gun, had it's first loss on it's second ever flight.
The F-35, the more you look into it, is a technological marvel, which is why China is proceeding to incorporate a lot of the features from the F-35 into it's own aircraft, like the latest J-20S model and the J-35, a Chinese F-35 analogue. The technology works and I find it silly to make fun of it. China wouldn't be spending billions on the J-20S and making the J-35 over the past decade plus, if they thought it was useless.
People in the Russian information space just dislike the F-35 because Russia cannot make an equivalent, so anything Russia doesn't have = useless to them. Same with aircraft carriers, something that people in the Russian information space claim is useless, while China is just about to unveil a new aircraft carrier.
Oop, yeah, that's what I get for skimming.
Although the one the Brits lost was in the Mediterranean, a separate incident from the one in the South China Sea.
People should remember that, for now, the US still holds technological advantage in aviation.