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[–] riskable@programming.dev 181 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So what they're saying is that Canada can win this fight if they've got good aim and a minimal arsenal of tools at their disposal. Got it.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 111 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, God is on their side!

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, we're declaring ourselves the loser bad guys of the story

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

The rest of the world: yeah we already knew that, though.

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[–] ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 115 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I just don't understand the part where we're somehow being "unfair" to the US.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 84 points 1 week ago (1 children)

During Trump's first term, Trudeau had to remind him that Canada has the deficit in trading with the US. This is probably retribution for embarrassing him. I wish I was kidding

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's more an attempt to replace income tax since it acts like a sales tax like they've been drooling to do for years but now they don't have to say the word tax

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

People should just start referring to Tariffs as "import taxes" (which exactly what Tariffs are) , as in " Trump raise the import taxes on Canadian goods".

Then just let people reach the natural conclusion from the pain on their wallets.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a strongarm tactic to negotiate something else they want or they're trying to spoil u.s.-Canadian relations.

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

Our president is a baby. Everything is unfair. Diapers? Unfair. Hurricanes? Unfair.

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[–] doctortofu@reddthat.com 89 points 1 week ago

Also, remind me Jack, whose side was God on in that fight? Because if I remember correctly it might have not been Goliath's...

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 81 points 1 week ago

Canada:

USA: How dare you. Trade war it is

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 74 points 1 week ago (10 children)

It's often been pointed out that Right Wing Media Literacy is poor.

We see this often when they root for villains or characters intentionally unsympathetic, like Bojack's Dad, Homelander.... heck Trump's 2020 Re-Election team compared him to Thanos, saying he was "inevitable" and making gifs of him as Thanos snapping the DNC away.

So this isn't anything new in theory, but it's amazing that this "They're rooting for the bad guys because they don't know how media works" problem extends to the FUCKING BIBLE!

The Heroes of the Bible are intentionally meek a lot of the time, the point is that even when you aren't powerful yourself, your dedication to your Faith and standing up for what's right should be enough to make up for your shortcomings, for the Lord will lift your burden.

It's why "Proud Christian" doesn't make any sense, it's a very Pro-Humility faith!

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mean, David literally had a thousand wives and concubines and he still had to go and fuck one of his best soldiers' wives.

He got her pregnant and then orchestrated the guys desth to cover up his sin, the baby was cursed to die, and the second the baby died, he was just like, "Okay, cool, I'm over it" and he's still considered the beloved of God.

The gist of the story is that people that are pointed to high places and have heroic unbelievable achievements can make horrible mistakes and still be forgiven by God as long as they repent.

Nobody is perfect, not the undefeatable giant Goliath, nor the beautifully-hearted musical genius hero warrior king David of Israel.

Anybody whose understanding of David stops at, He killed Goliath with a slingshot" doesn't deserve any sort of authority when it comes to interpretation of the Bible.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My interpretations of the Bible are as useful as my interpretations of any other fantasy series. Just because something has a deeper meaning doesn't mean it is useful, correct, or should be followed. Every episode of South Park ends with what lessons they learned. It's also more up to date and in tune with the realities of the world around it. The reason people don't worship South Park is because they haven't been systematically brainwashed to do so.

How I know this: god told me so

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Goliath also ate children.

[–] captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

perfect analogy for the american government.

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[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Short answer - No

Long answer - Nnnnnnnnoooooooooooo

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 week ago

Bitch, the "unfair treatment" you are going on about was the one proposed by Trump in 2018.

[–] Breve@pawb.social 37 points 1 week ago

Maybe he should blame the guy who last negotiated such a bad trade deal, which would be... checks notes... Donald Trump during his first term! 🀦

[–] iamnotme@feddit.uk 37 points 1 week ago (9 children)

This has very much the feeling of β€˜they need us more than we need them’

I’m in the UK and some people voted for Brexit saying the same. Look how that turned out for us over the last five years.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I stopped reading Reddit entirely save for deshittifying search results, but I braced myself and looked at the conservative subreddit today, and even they think this is quite dumb.

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[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Do these people even read their own books?

No. I thought that was pretty obvious.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

You got right to the problematic issue: "read". Reading is hard. Reading a long text is harder. Reading a very long text with complex meanings and referring to things outside the historical context of most readers, is very hard.

I've read the Bible. Twice. I don't think there is any action or concept by the current GOP where you won't find a sentence in the Bible that is actually condemning this precise move. They don't care, as they have never read it.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's certainly the first word that comes to mind when you hear Canada; Unfair. How rude of us to bully America around like that.

[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Also, Goliath was the bad guy.

They're not even trying anymore

Because they don't even have to

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They can only read at a 5th grade level. If stop signs didn't have a shape and color there would be mass casualties

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah! Prepare yourselves! You're going up against Cobra Kai!

This is your end game and you're up against Thanos is what I mean!

You're like that Mexican "Chapulin Colorado!"

You're like those blue people fighting Gargamel and his cat! You'll never succeed! Never!

Have you guys ever seen voltron, the thunder cats, robotech, ghost in the shell, the power rangers, you Canadians are just like that going up against all their archnesises! Yeah!

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You're assuming that these people give a fuck about Christianity other than as a cudgel for beating people up.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 23 points 1 week ago

No they don't. "Christians" don't read, especially their own handbooks. To the point where if you quote something from the bible that disagrees with their ignorant bullshit they get extra mad.

[–] Stegget@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I always find this imagery amusing. David is touted as this weak shepherd boy who is nearly defenseless in the face of this giant opponent. In reality, you've got someone who has trained to sling rocks with deadly accuracy. He's basically the bronze age equivalent of a sniper, bro can send a 2 inch projectile at mach jesus straight for your dome.

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[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I find the average atheist seems to be more familiar with the messages of the Bible than many of these people who claim to spend their Sundays studying it.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Teenage me went into reading the Bible expecting to learn more about my religion and become one of those well-versed scholars.

And then I kept reading, and the terrible truth eventually dawned on me. It really is just a bunch of silly stories from farmers thousands of years ago. It's nearly impossible to actually read it and remain neutral about this; yet another one of life's "emperors new clothes" situations.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Out of curiosity I went to one once, I am not Christian and I never believed in the Bible.

I don’t know if this how all churches do it but the one church I went to read the Bible in a manipulative way. Regardless of the book or its content, you cannot construct a narrative by selecting one or two verses from one book and another one or two verses from another book of the Bible. Sometimes the books aren’t even from the same testament.

Any book should be read in whole, and any verse has a context that explains it.

The same technique applied to anything be it a research paper or a comic will produce a false narrative.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Here's a fun one: tell a conservative that rich people are doomed to go to hell. If they ask how you figure that, quote:

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God

Without fail their programming will kick in and you will get some lengthy blog post with stupid reasoning about how what Jesus was actually talking about was some rock formation and some other dumb shit. Meanwhile you can just read the verses before and after for context and it's pretty damn clear what was meant: greed is a form of evil.

This is the difference between reading the Bible and having it explained to you.

Another fun one: tell them God prefers atheists to vague believers. Prepare for another programmed blog post about how Jesus was actually referring to the taste of the water at some town that completely ignores the context of the book itself.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

The US has strategically used tariffs with great success over the last decades to get favorable pricing from Canada on everything from energy, softwood, potash, you name it. One item at a time, slowly, methodically they were able to bring down pricing. We have been giving the US extremely good prices, and now, because of Trump he has just flipped the board over and it's time to restart.

America will be far worse off than before this started, and this has leveled off the playing field again with Canada.

As a Canadian I am thrilled.

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[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No. They don't.
They have co-opted something they are too dumb and lazy to even understand.
Any other questions?

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Villainmaxxing

No. No, they do not.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

If they read it, they would call the main character in part II "woke" and dismiss him as a "liberal."

And he wasn't even especially woke.

[–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Fun fact: Humans are also susceptible to rocks.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Must be weird thinking emperor palpatine was the good guy

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Goliath was killed by a sword - the rock knocked him down so that David could behead him.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

MAGA has such a hardon for hurting people.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Setting tariffs without accompanying trade negotiations is like starting a fight with someone by shooting yourself, unless of course the goal is xenophobia and isolationism instead of equitable trade.

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