Aceticon

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

As the post says:

LLM “tended to sacrifice accuracy for simplicity” when writing news briefs.

Which make sense as they're a statistical text prediction engine and have no notion of what is important or not in a text, so unlike humans don't treat different parts differently depending on how important they are in that domain.

In STEM fields accuracy is paramount and there are things which simply cannot be dropped from the text when summarizing it, but LLMs are totally unable to guarantee that.

It's the same reason why code generated by LLMs almost never works without being reviewed and corrected - the LLM will drop essential elements so the code doesn't work as it should or won't even compile, but at least with code the compiler validates some of the accuracy of that text at compile time against a set of fixed rules, whilst the person reviewing the code knows upfront the intention for that code - i.e. what it was supposed to do - and can use that as a guide for spotting problems in the generated code.

One thing is summarizing a management meeting where most of the things said are vague waffle, with thing often repeated and were nobody really expects precision and accuracy (sometimes, quite the opposite) and hence a loss of precision is generally fine, a whole different think is summarizing things were at least some parts must be precise and accurate.

Personally I totally expect that LLMs fail miserable in areas requiring precision and accuracy, were a text statistical engine with a pretty much uniform error probability in terms of gravity of the error (i.e. just as likely to make a critical mistake as it is to make a minor mistake) will in summarizing just as easily mangle or drop elements in critical areas requiring accuracy as it does in areas which are just padding.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The American and British political Liberals have always been fine with Fascism, as long as that the Fascists did their fascist things abroad - I mean, just look at the kind of politicians American Administrations - Democrats and Republicans alike - always supported in South America and the Middle East (the current government in Israel and its Genocide that's turning into a New Holocaust being a painful present day example).

They were supposed to be against Fascism in the Homeland, but as we're seeing now in the US and UK the top "Liberal" politicians when Fascism starts doing its thing in their country quickly bend the knee and even turn collaborationist, which if you think about it makes sense: their objection to Fascism was never Ethical or Moral - had it been so they would've been against it abroad too - it was really only about power and wealth, so if the Fascists become the gatekeepers to that, well, the Liberals will do what it takes to keep their access to it, similarly to how they courted the Moneyed Elites when they were the gatekeepers to power and wealth.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

It's funny how the pre-defined crap in the remote and the start screen did a lot in pushing me away from Android TV and into doing my own solution with a Mini-PC and Linux.

Oh, and it has a remote too: one of these

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well, as I pointed out somewhere else, suggesting "I came, I saw, I came" in English as the name of a strip club or whorehouse is by itself pretty much the whole joke, and people don't need to know Latin to get it (to get "Veni, Vidi, Veni" one needs to know both the original expression in Latin and that the word "Veni" means "(I) came"), exactly because as you say, pretty much everybody knows "I came, I saw, I conquered".

Putting it in Latin for me feels more like a way to signal one's above average educational or cultural level, that anything that enhances the joke.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Personally, given that I speak a couple of languages, using Latin there just feels forced: suggesting "I came, I saw, I came" as a name for a stripclub or whorehouse is itself the actual funny part and putting it like that instead of in Latin makes it click much faster and for more people (as they don't actually need to know that Veni in Latin is "came").

The language in there only really serves the purpose of showing that the person making it is well educated and know that phrase in its original Latin, which whilst totally valid doesn't make it any more funny, maybe even takes away a bit of it's impact as a joke.

In my own experience the best multiple language jokes play on double entendres in the more unusual language or both languages, or in how people use expressions in their own language without thinking about individual words, but those expressions in literal form are sometimes hilarious (think about "I need to pick your brains" ... and now add a Zombie Apocalypse context) - for example you can wordplay with the hilarious the Dutch expression for "wasting time in details" which is "mieren neuken" (literally "fucking ants") by totally out of the blue talking about "insect shagging" in English to a Dutch audience in the context of time being wasted (also if it's a meeting with people who don't know Dutch, their face when the rest goes "oh shit!" and they totally don't get wtf is going on makes it extra funny).

That said, those tend to be pretty exclusive jokes in that only a few people get it because they need to know both languages, which is especially hard when neither of the languages is English.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That wouldn't work in Latin (were the correct translation to give the meaning you want would be something like Veni, Vidi, Eiaculatus), but it kinda works for english-speakers who also know enough Latin to get it, though I suspect most don't.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The point is that the joke as done by the OP makes no sense outside the English language, just as jokes in other languages based on there being words with multiple meanings or similar sounding words with different meanings in that language, make no sense outside that language.

That joke doesn't at all work in "Latin", it only works when translated back to English because "to come" has two different meanings.

It would never work in Latin.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Only if Hamas disarms.

In other words, the Gazans have to unconditionally surrender to Israel first and then those nations will "recognize Palestine as a nation" which does nothing at all to protect said Gazans from being exterminated to the last man, woman and child by Israel.

Unsurprisingly, the movement top "recognize" Palestine like this was started by Britain, the same country which still now runs surveillance flights over Gaza and gives the data to Israel, has old ladies arrested as terrorists for demonstrating against that Genocide and has a long tradition in politics of using the strategy of "loudly announcing a measure that looks will do one thing, whilst in fact doing nothing or the opposite" in order to defuse public opinion pressure to actually act to solve something.

Most countries participating in the British led version are countries such as Belgium and Canada with governments that support the Zionists and their Genocide (edit: whilst the public opinion there is strongly against the Genocide, hence the need to make it seem they're doing something about it whilst in practice doing nothing)

This is Smoke & Mirrors bullshit, so good on the government of Portugal (my homeland, and until now a fucking disgrace on the subject of Palestine and Israel, more so given that the country is right next to Spain which behaves very differently, but at least this once they're - surprisingly, more so because the "conservatives" are in power - not as usual being the poodle for nations like Britain) for distancing itself from the Theatrical Performance led by the Brits.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Let me put things this way: back when I was a member of .world and already loudly anti-Genocide, my registration e-mail was leaked to Israel and I got an e-mail in it from a Tel Aviv based organization inviting me to attend an online "learn about Israel" seminar. Oh and it came in my own native language.

The registration information is not public, but .world admins can get it.

This is actually why I left.

Also several moderators in large .world communities are openly Zionists, both in their moderation actions and at times in their own posts in other communities.

It's my impression that .world is thoroughly infiltrated by state actors (which makes sense, give that it's by far the largest instance around), at the very least Israeli and American.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If they still have it after you take it, you didn't steal anything.

Also Disney specifically, for having for decades bought politicians to get Copyright extended progressively from the original 25 years to the present day Death Of Author + 75 years (in practice that's around 125 years in average), has taken more from the Public Domain (which is were works end after Copyright is over) which is owned by all of us, than anybody could possibly "take" from them by refraining to obey the copyrights of their works and just copying their shit without paying them.

It's a fucking Moral Duty to not obey Copyright Legislation when it comes to the likes of Disney.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

The land of Neville Chamberlain has now produced a much worse politician, who is not just an appeaser but an actual supporter of modern day Fascists including the XXI century version of the NAZIs: Zionists.

 

So apparently for lemmy.world mods pointing out that the word "anti-semite" is far more used than "antigypsyism, anti-Romanyism, antiziganism, ziganophobia, or Romaphobia” even though the Nazis targetted both Jews and Roma in the Holocaust, is, somehow, "Criticizing Jewish people as a whole".

Or maybe it's the whole "I don't care about any one specific race, I care about people and think it's always unjusct when people are treated differently based on things they were born with, such as race" that was deemed "Criticizing Jewish people as a whole".

Good old lemmy.world: they were called on it repeatedly so eventually walked back on the whole "criticizing Israel is anti-semitic" but apparently if you don't go along with the view that racism against a very specific group is much worse than racism against people from other groups, then you must be against that specific ethnic group.

My comment in text for reference:

All clearly as frequently used as "anti-semitism" /s

And yeah, I don't care about race, any race, I care about people, which includes that they're not unjustly treated for things that were not their choice, such as the race they were born into.

It's Racists who feel the need to care about a race or races, defending things for some races which they do noit defend for others, doing little performances about how others must care about those races too and that those who don't "are against those races" - for them race comes first, defining a person and dictating how they should be treated.

For Humanists race is something that should be of as little importance to how somebody is treated as the color of their eyes or how tall they are, and yet they see again and again race weponized by Racists to treat people differently even though those people haven't actually earned such treatment through their actions: in other words race fro Humanists is something that should be irrelevant yet has been turned by others into a pivot for injustice.

It's pretty obvious from your little performance which one you are

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