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[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 102 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Explaining societal collapse to an American: Imagine a burger

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 80 points 1 year ago

But then imagine not a burger

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[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 75 points 1 year ago

grillman Yes, I am plenty familiar with the concept of 'supply and demand'...

grill-broke I demand you supply me with my treats for minimum wage!

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[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Tent cities i sleep

No treats real shit

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

IDK this guy doesn't seem all bad

critical-support

[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Gonna guess this is about the covid vaccine as opposed to working conditions given that it's a blue check.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

The tweet doesn’t specify but a comment indicates you’re correct

Link to tweet in question: https://nitter.net/DeanAbbott/status/1436082805688180743

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Americans are a land of contrasts

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[-] Egon@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I dunno, he's not really wrong. Like sure me want treats or whatever, but that doesn't seem to be what he's communicating.
We expect something "big" to happen when we transition from one era to another, but that's not how it really is. Stuffs gradual until it isnt. Society collapses when the bonds that tie us together disintegrate and one of those bonds is reliable and good employment. When you can't get that or expect that from a job, then you don't apply. The reason you don't expect those things is because shit is fucked. Where I live the "help wanted" signs are never taken down due to high turnover. It didn't use to be that way. Shits fucked and it's not sustainable

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

One thing that really got me thinking differently about all this is how Patrick Wyman would talk about the “collapse” of the Western Roman Empire. Especially how it was very “uneven”. Some regions (like Britain) experienced swift, severe decline. It was slower for others. And some regions even fared better when the central authority lost power over them (North Africa).

Through that lens, lots of parts of America are already in collapse. Certainly a lot of inner core parts of cities, and rural towns for sure.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah exactly, that's what I mean and I think it's what the dairy Queen dude means as well. He's not saying "me want treats" he's being funny about something stable disappearing.
Patrick Wyman is great, and that whole series is fantastic. He also talks about this gradual change - people travelling less, less food getting exported, less Military security. you rely more on the local mercenaries, after some time. They settle in. Your dad remembers his trip to Napoli still and your grandma was actually Spanish but met your granddad while he was stationed in Iberia, while you've never left your province

[-] PZK@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

I don't know if he means well, but whether he is accidentally correct by whining about treats or he is giving a relatable example, he is right on the money.

Rather amusingly, treats are pivotal to both the economy and the culture of America. A Wendy's closing in America could actually be a sign of decline. data-laughing

[-] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Looks like I've got a new podcast to binge 👀

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

Easy access to treats is the primary thing that brings Americans together

[-] MorelaakIsBack@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

no dean

societal collapse looks like you getting blended and passed through a dairy queen ice cream maker because the locals found this tweet

[-] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not being able to? Dairy Queen just doesn't want to, when every job has sky high requirements, expects you to work for free, or usually both. Porky is the worst example of a charity case known to man.

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[-] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's not wrong in that collapse often isn't an apocalyptic reckoning, it's sometimes a slow degradation of conditions and inability to change paths. Caring about Dairy Queen specifically is treat brained, but look at Russia post-USSR collapse - there wasn't a giant explosion just a decade of immiseration and quiet death

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

I'd seriously recommend this opinion piece on this topic.

If you’re waiting for a moment where you’re like “this is it,” I’m telling you, it never comes. Nobody comes on TV and says “things are officially bad.” There’s no launch party for decay. It’s just a pileup of [disruptions,] outrages and atrocities in between friendships and weddings and perhaps an unusual amount of alcohol.

[-] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m doing my part 🫡 🍹 🍹 🍺 socialism-beer

Just dump my corpse on the White House lawn

[-] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

there’s a middle ground between these two. he could have brought up the supply chain issues and that store shelves are barely stocked (i had a 24 hr cold the other day and i went to 5 pharmacies looking for covid tests, they were all out of stock). instead he went w the “nobody wants to work” line

[-] aaro@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

I mean, they're kinda right, not in that societal collapse is when no double chunky munky blizzard, but societal collapse looks like that in that it's a fair bet as a precursor to societal collapse. I think it's pretty reasonable to think the treats will be the first to go and the loss of the treats will precipitate more chaos.

[-] CarmineCatboy@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

why is this in the dunk tank, that person is merely pointing out the collapse of feudal capitalism (good thing)

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Mate, even if every corn-syrup and animal-protein-slurry dispenser in Amerikkka was destroyed, feudal capitalism would still reign. See Haiti.

[-] CarmineCatboy@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

but we can't destroy the corn syrup replicators how else am i to get spare parts for my lawnmobile

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

imo this is just too many treat vendors competing for the same labor pool

[-] CarmineCatboy@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the government must estabilish a national treat monopoly that forces all treat employees to buy a portion of treats from all other treat dispensories via a sovereign treat employee fund

[-] Judge_Juche@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

I assume he is coming at it from a "the kids are too woke to work anymore" angle, maybe unfair but he has a blue check which must be treated with reflexive hostility.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Dairy Queen has fallen.

Billions must die.

[-] M68040@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

The most minor inconveniences stimulate hitler particle emission the most

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

no that's what dairy queen closing at 4pm looks like but close

[-] Bobson_Dugnutt@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

One day you can't get ice cream at 6 pm, pretty soon there's barbarians at the city gates

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Doesn't sound that unbelievable after sit-in restaurants being limited by covid restrictions led to hospital blockades and government buildings getting ransacked. grill-broke

[-] Crowtee_Robot@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Just as Saint John of Patmos wrote in Revelations.

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[-] PurrLure@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

MY TREEEEEEATS! ferret-poggers

[-] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

xi-lib-tears but my ebic frozen treats!!!! Society is collapsing if i can’t get upside-down ice cream cuppy!!

Lmfao. Society is collapsing because the people who used to work there are now homeless

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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