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[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 140 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I am the guy with the truck.

The truck is proof that Americans can and will accept socialism.

It's brocialism.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"What if we had a system where people could get the assistance they need. We could call it... Communityism.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But see, it's not fair if people just get what they need! You need to make sure people are paying for it!

We can make it part of the system that each person gets help according to their needs, but each person also gives help according to their abilities. Yes yes. This is now definitely capitalism because it's transactions.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Capitalism has nothing to do with transactions. Capitalism would be if the truck was owed by Benny, who would not show up, not fill it up with gas, not repair it, but would still receive half of pizza and 2/3 of beer.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

You are correct that I was not describing capitalism.
I was participating in the silly by creeping closer to full communism and still saying it's something else.

And I'm not sure why Benny would only get half and 2/3s respectively. They owned the truck, so they're the one that did the moving. The others are just employees.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure they were referring to From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs which most definitely is not capitalism lol, it's a joke

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[–] divingdonkey@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not really capitalism without the involvement of capital, is it? It's more akin to a trade-and-barter-economy/society, where everyone involved should have a high level of faith in others

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm pretty sure they were referring to From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs which most definitely is not capitalism lol, it's a joke

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How do you think Kevin paid for the truck? With pizzas?

[–] divingdonkey@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry if it wasn't clear, but money != Capital, not necessarily. You can have money to exchange for goods, but as long as your money doesn't auto-accumulate via interest, dividends etc, you don't necessarily have capital. Of course this is mainly a discussion on definitions then

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

No, the truck is his capital. That's his means of production — presumably, not just of free pizzas in exchange for moving furniture, but even then, every dollar he saves by not having to pay for dinner could go towards paying off his car loan.

On top of that he's saving on taxes because no money was ever exchanged for this transaction. Everything about this scenario is 100% capitalist.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (43 children)

The crazy part is it doesn't matter who you voted for, everyone on both sides would generally love to help their neighbor and would offer a hand. It's just when people get involved in the macro sense that they get filled with hate and anger. Makes me sad. Let's just all move couches.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Conservatives are often nice to people they know. The in-group. The problem is when it's a scary other. So they'll let Jose couch surf for a week while he sorts out his housing situation, because he's a good guy down on his luck, but they'll rage against Those People getting anything.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

That's my understanding too. It's like empathy just ends at one's own line of sight. If I can't see it or touch it, there may be something wrong with it. It's infuriating.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, but he's different, he's not like the others that you see on the news

[–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

My FIL literally helped an undocumented Mexican who worked for him become a citizen, but is anti immigration.

[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because they are chudservatives , they are only nice to people they know and like

They are hateful to people they don’t know and don’t like, people who don’t have the same opinions, and people who don’t hold the same beliefs

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We do socialism all the time.

Neighbors bring each other gifts. Friends feed one another. Someone is struggling and we give them what they need, no questions asked.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s not really socialism, given that it is not universally distributed but depends on one’s social connections. A socialist system would have impersonal mechanisms for catching those who fall through the cracks due to not knowing enough people to ask for and repay favours. (And those people do exist: “everyone knows a guy with a truck” except perhaps for a socially isolated shut-in or someone who does not speak the language, or someone who does not fit in with the community in their truck catchment radius.)

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I am also the guy with the truck. But I do not drive 5-speed manual very well. So the truck lives at the house of my friend who is good at driving manual. He's kind of my Tony, I guess. The truck is indeed a community resource of anyone we are decent friends with.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ease the clutch out at the same rate you put on the gas. Just a nice smooth up and down with both feet at the same time, like you are pedaling a bike, but with 2 tons hammering around you.