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Some things I've learned throughout the years that may be useful to some people:
I've learned that cardio can work, but there's also a lot of truth to that "you can't outrun a bad diet" saying. Like you said, your body can subtly undermine your work by making you more hungry, and it can also cause you to be less active in between exercise without realizing it.
Last year I cut out 95% of all junk food and snacking, started eating more lean protein (like chicken), and made sure to cut out ultra processed foods where I could (i.e. home-cooked meals vs frozen dinners), and without increasing exercise I lost 20 lbs in 2 months. Sometimes it really is the diet that holds you back.
That isn't a surprise, diet makes a massively bigger difference than exercise, but the real goal needs to be sustainability.
It's always the diet. Even someone who burns an extra 4000 calories a day can eat themselves into obesity.
That doesn't mean someone has to starve to lose weight, just watch what they eat, like you did.
That's a fantastic result, nice job.
Yeah, most of the people I've spoken with about their weight issues have terrible portion control. Like they'll just sit and eat an entire bag of chips while they watch TV for an hour. It's crazy to me. My parents just got put on a diet to try to get their weight under control because they're both pre-diabetic and the next day my mom went out to costco and loaded up on fruit for them to snack on instead of chips. Which I guess is better, but an entire shelf in their giant 2 door refrigerator is full of tubs of berries and shit, if they're planning to eat proper portions of those as snacks half that shit will rot before they get through it. Maybe my mom just has brain rot from all the fad diets she's been exposed to over the years but I don't think the idea of just not eating snacks or counting calories even went through their heads.
It's crazy to me how people can not eat a whole bag of chips. Like I am supposed to put half of the bag back into the cupboard? If I open a bar of chocolate, I eat the whole thing, every time. And a lot of people I know are similar. This is the reason why I never but this stuff, as the best defense tactic is to have nothing in the house.
I am overall a healthy person and do a lot of exercising by the way, but I can't control myself with chips. And I think that is not unnatural, as this stuff is made exactly the way that it makes you addicted af. Of course I feel like shit after I ate the whole bag, but I don't know how to control myself.
Seriously, don't eat snacks out of the package they come in. Put a small portion in a bowl or on a plate and put the main container up. It gets easier with practice.
My kids used to laugh at me for eating one half of the twix & putting it away for another day, and an emergency chocolate bar at work will last me weeks. It's not willpower - if I had to TRY not to eat it all, I wouldn't buy it either.
I think about this when people say those GLP drugs are cheating, that people should just use willpower, I think all they are doing is giving people the same experience many of us have naturally - I love food but not overeating, that doesn't feel good at all, and enjoy moving my body, I like dancing and exercise.
Yeah. Even better, don't take the bag of chips out for the snack, only take out a bowl or so of them and don't just keep refilling the bowl, that's the hard part. Not having your snack bag readily available means you have to expend effort to go get more, and that's generally when I lean into my lazy habits. Because I have to go all the way downstairs and across the house to get more.
I feel like snacking in the USA has been made out to be something you do to pass the time or fill up. Instead of enjoying something delightful.
"Food is not reward, food is not entertainment" became my mantra.
It's macadamia nuts for me. If I have a 3 lb. bag of macadamia nuts, I'm eating a 3 lb. bag of macadamia nuts. Fortunately, they're expensive, so I just don't get them anymore. It's much easier to not buy them, than to not eat them.
My body isn't subtle in the slightest.
Any amount of work?
We're starving, we're starving! Says my body, like the cats who have a still almost full bowl of food.
Stupid meat husk.
Right? (I know it's not the same) but come on look at all of this fat you can burn! You're not hungry, you're lazy, you know, like I want to be.
This is because people don't wrong. You can absolutely gorge yourself on vegetables and still easily run a calorie deficit. People instead try to just eat tiny amounts of calorie dense foods, and that's what fails, because it leaves you hungry and tired.
Also, taking massive doses of iron supplements (or dark greens) helps a lot.
Because of the constipation?
What is this "going outside" you are talking about? Sounds very interesting
Men, been there, you're not missing out.
The outside experience is extremely location dependant.
my house would be outside experience if I didn't live inside it. It's all a matter of perspective
It's a free open world thing with really good graphics - but it's multiplayer only, and PVP can't be switched off.
The daystar!
Personally Ive never been able to lose weight except by eating less. Lost 8 pounds backpacking in 5 days once though, was probably atleast a 2k calorie deficit per day.
That's absolutely the best way to lose weight.
People shouldn't exercise to lose weight, they should exercise because it's good for your general physical, mental and emotional health. To lose weight, you eat less.
More than half the reason I ever get any exercise at all is in service of my mental health.
I find physical activity suppresses my appetite, so I tend to lose weight when outdoors just from not thinking about eating as often and not eating as much when I do because I feel full with less.
even going for a walk is probably as effective
I tried to up the effectiveness of my walks with a weighted vest, but my god do those things make you look like a douchebag.
Plus Iβm a white guy with transition lenses who doesnβt like getting a sunburn on my neck, and appreciate the utility of cargo shorts.
So Iβm a white guy, in sunglasses, a backwards hat, and cargo short; that, to me, just screams ICE agent, which I do not want to be associated with.
I need to zhuzh up my wardrobe with bright colors or something.
Increasing weight is actually not very effective at burning more calories, you'd be better off just adding like 10 minutes of time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPUlgSRn6e0
The boring as hell part can be managed with a smartphone and some movies.
Of course depending on the specific machine. Some are better for it than others.
I prefer elliptical machine as it spreads the load out all across the body and it's the easiest to manage the load with it to aim for some specific heart rate zones. At the same time i have almost 2(1+1) undistributed hours to watch whatever movie or TV show i want. More peaceful than watching those at home.
Distraction devices tend to be less effective on indoor machines for me personally. I do listen to a bunch of podcasts for outdoor runs/bike rides though, and find them to be an essential part of the process
I have health issues so I can no longer go biking outdoors, but I use the app KinoMap (like Peloton but without brand lock-in) to view POV video of bike trips and the app adjusts resistance over BT according to the road topology.
I pick out a map/video and internet radio or a playlist from the country it is recorded. It makes exercise much easier and more fun for me and is way more engaging than staring at numbers on a display.
They also have videos for running trails and rowing and additional social media stuff that I am not interested in.
That sounds like the most fun you can get with an indoor bike, and I'm happy you're able to do It despite the health issues.
I will concede that the one type of indoor training I could one day get behind would probably be virtual cycling. Maybe one winter when I decide that running in the dark and wet isn't actually fun. Time will tell.
There are other apps that are more oriented towards racing if that's your thing and you can get a BT connected trainer for your roadbike.
For me an upright exercise bike is great now and I enjoy doing little mini excursions around the world when I can not travel any more.
Exercise isnβt a great way to lose weight at all. The best way to lose weight is changing how much you consume. That being said, exercise and movement are very important to being healthy.
source: https://youtu.be/vSSkDos2hzo
Yup, as a Fat Person(tm) I couldn't get into an exercise regiment and keep with it because it's very difficult to do much with a lot of weight. Then a doctor told me "Exercise is good, but you lose weight first in the kitchen." Eat out less, eat more vegetables and fruits, less carbs, fat doesn't make you fatter calories do, if the food is fat free that means it has more calories as they put a crap ton of sugar in it.
If you are having enough fun, even high-intensity can be maintained far longer than you'd think possible when doing something that's engaging. Still, spending 1 hour in zone 4-5 is probably gonna burn less calories than a 1.5 hour workout centered on zone 3.
But what if you just work out so intensely, that you're too tired to eat? Its funny to me that the body can have like a 4K calorie deficit for the day and still just be like "No food. That's a problem for tomorrow. Sleep now." Probably a case where ignoring your body is a good idea.
Spending an hour in zone 5 is not exactly what I would call a realistic endeavor, given that zone 5 explicitly is above LT2. Lower zone 4, sure, but you're looking at a race effort at that point
There's little to no evidence that cardio excerse leads to weight loss. Groups who restrict calorie intake alway out perform the exercise group in weight loss studies and there's never any significant difference between 2 groups who both restrict calories but one exercises and the other does not.
It's a fundamental misunderstanding of how we use glycogen for moving around and fat as an emergency reserve. If we remember that we evolved as persistence hunters, it starts to make more sense. I.E. what's the point in putting on a layer of fat for a winter reserve, if you could accidentally run it off chasing down a meal? Those that could run it off chasing down a meal didn't survive the hard winters and those that didn't lived.
The whole idea that you could do cardio to lose weight was invented by food producers to make people think they could treat their diet like a credit card and payback overspending with exercise. That way, we would eat more and they would make more money. It's also the reason it's called cardiovascular exercise and not weight-loss excersise.
Some fun facts: Grover Krantz -- the guy who first posited the "running man" theory -- was better-known as a staunch believer in the existence of Bigfoot. Also, his skeleton and the skeleton of his favorite dog are on display at the Smithsonian for some reason.
Personally, I can't believe anybody could possibly believe in Bigfoot. It's obviously just a Yeti in a gorilla suit.
Or, alternatively, use the stationary nature of indoor machines to make it less boring. I typically read. Or maybe watch a show or movie.
Outside is great too of course, but bad weather can be hard to overcome depending on where you live.
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