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[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 143 points 3 weeks ago (38 children)

Some things I've learned throughout the years that may be useful to some people:

  • if your aim is to use a lot of energy, dialing down the intensity significantly and working for a longer time is the way to go
  • basically all cardio machines at the gym are going to be boring as all hell, going outside and doing activities is a lot more fun
  • baking in activity into your day-to-day routines is very helpful. Transporting yourself by biking, walking, taking transit, a mix of all of the above makes a large difference
  • cardio as a means of losing weight has a downside in that vigorous exercise provokes a lot of hunger. make sure to combine with small sustainable changes in diet for best results
[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I've learned that cardio can work, but there's also a lot of truth to that "you can't outrun a bad diet" saying. Like you said, your body can subtly undermine your work by making you more hungry, and it can also cause you to be less active in between exercise without realizing it.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

Last year I cut out 95% of all junk food and snacking, started eating more lean protein (like chicken), and made sure to cut out ultra processed foods where I could (i.e. home-cooked meals vs frozen dinners), and without increasing exercise I lost 20 lbs in 2 months. Sometimes it really is the diet that holds you back.

[–] bright@piefed.social 16 points 3 weeks ago

That isn't a surprise, diet makes a massively bigger difference than exercise, but the real goal needs to be sustainability.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 15 points 3 weeks ago

It's always the diet. Even someone who burns an extra 4000 calories a day can eat themselves into obesity.

That doesn't mean someone has to starve to lose weight, just watch what they eat, like you did.

That's a fantastic result, nice job.

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[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

My body isn't subtle in the slightest.

Any amount of work?

We're starving, we're starving! Says my body, like the cats who have a still almost full bowl of food.

Stupid meat husk.

Right? (I know it's not the same) but come on look at all of this fat you can burn! You're not hungry, you're lazy, you know, like I want to be.

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[–] Thorry@feddit.org 11 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

What is this "going outside" you are talking about? Sounds very interesting

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[–] Elting@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Personally Ive never been able to lose weight except by eating less. Lost 8 pounds backpacking in 5 days once though, was probably atleast a 2k calorie deficit per day.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Personally Ive never been able to lose weight except by eating less.

That's absolutely the best way to lose weight.

People shouldn't exercise to lose weight, they should exercise because it's good for your general physical, mental and emotional health. To lose weight, you eat less.

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I find physical activity suppresses my appetite, so I tend to lose weight when outdoors just from not thinking about eating as often and not eating as much when I do because I feel full with less.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

baking in activity into your day-to-day routines is very helpful. Transporting yourself by biking, walking, taking transit, a mix of all of the above makes a large difference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPUlgSRn6e0

[–] determinist@kbin.earth 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

even going for a walk is probably as effective

[–] Doug@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I tried to up the effectiveness of my walks with a weighted vest, but my god do those things make you look like a douchebag.

Plus I’m a white guy with transition lenses who doesn’t like getting a sunburn on my neck, and appreciate the utility of cargo shorts.

So I’m a white guy, in sunglasses, a backwards hat, and cargo short; that, to me, just screams ICE agent, which I do not want to be associated with.

I need to zhuzh up my wardrobe with bright colors or something.

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[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.today 39 points 3 weeks ago

As someone else mentioned, humans are hilariously good at cardio. And the more you do it the more efficient you become at it, which means less calories burned.

Then there's NEAT (Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis) which is unconscious movements you perform during the day. This accounts for a huge number of calories you burn during the day. Both exercise and cutting calories reduce NEAT, especially at you get leaner.

This isn't to say you shouldn't cut calories or exercise. Reducing caloric intake absolutely works, you just need to be aware that your body will adjust to it, and that you should take breaks from dieting occasionally to bring your daily estimated calorie burn back up. Exercise should be thought of as something that improves health with a side benefit of some caloric burn.

Just my opinion.

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Humans are hilariously efficient at running. Skipping a candy bar is easier than running two miles.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The line I like is "you can't outrun your fork." Weight loss is 99% about the kitchen, bodybuilding is probably about 75% the kitchen.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Speak for your fucking self. I run about as well as a 65 year old tractor left out in the sun

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[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 30 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

It's actually infuriating how energy efficient the human body is...in peace time anyways.

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[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Please. You don't use exercise to lose weight. That's what bootleg weight loss drugs are for.

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[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

This one hits close to home. I was in great shape the first half-plus of my life. Played sports, swam competitively, did the Marine thing. Always had a reason to want to not be out of shape, mainly so doing things didn't suck.

Lost reason. Packed some pounds on, maybe 20 or so.

Finally decided about a year and a half ago to start running again, and so now I run like 35-40 miles a week, and every run I see the calories. Run for 45 minutes, burn like 650 calories. Costco has these cookies that I have to avoid seeing, and each cookie is 200 calories, and I can easily eat three, four, five at a clip, with a nice tall glass of milk. And so I'll run for 90 minutes, and literally offset the benefit entirely in 10 minutes watching Netflix before bed.

It's not fair. But it is what it is. And so my reason to run is chocolate chip cookies.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (22 children)

Part of the trick is finding an exercise that's actually enjoyable to do so that you don't care how hard you're working or how much time has passed. Time is gonna pass extra slow on a treadmill and feel really difficult, if you're not enjoying it. I find that the bicycle is that sweet spot for me, I do it because it's fun not because of my health.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I like riding a bmx bike but I'm also pushing 40 so I look like a crackhead who just stole a BMX bike if I do.

Do it, nobody gives a shit more than you do

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Part of the trick is finding an exercise that’s actually enjoyable to do so that you don’t care how hard you’re working or how much time has passed.

So sports?

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[–] homes@piefed.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Had a short walk to the store and back. About 130 cal burned. Then I drink a big glass of milk. 300 cal.

Awesome

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

People must be made so different. Exercise is the main factor in my size & weight. Like, even getting a job where I have to go up the stairs makes a difference.

And remember that there are so many benefits to exercise, beyond body shape. Cardio is so good for your heart and helps ease anxiety, lifting is so good for your bones, yoga helps keep you resilient & mobile so you don't break when you fall down, and helps with balance.

All of them help offset all the sitting most of us have to do at work.

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[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The exercise is not (primarily) for weight loss. It's so your body doesn't feel like a useless sack of potatoes the whole day. So you're not out of breath when picking something up from the ground. The weight loss is unfortunately primarily achieved in the kitchen.

At least, that's my experience. But maybe if you used to not move at all it makes a big difference. I lost weight when I changed my diet for the better, and I gain weight whenever I slip up significantly. But when I stopped running 15km per week (for health reasons) I didn't really gain a significant amount, maybe a kg (accounting for noise). I did become a useless sack if potatoes though, so I'm back in the grind.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The caloric calculation is only based on the effort at time of exercise, you continue to burn afterwards for several hours as muscles recover and heal -all that takes energy, and energy only comes from burning.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You gain muscle at the gym.

You lose weight in the kitchen.

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[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

It is easier to limit excess calories than to burn them with exercise, for sure.

But I do the recommended 30 minutes of β€œmoderate exercise” and I see 200 calories, so it is maybe not entirely as dismal as this?

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm 265 lbs. and if the treadmill takes that into account I see about 400 calories down 30 minutes into my 5k.

BUT, the saying I've heard is "you can't outrun your fork" and it seems to be true. (For example, I quite enjoy eating 2000 calories at a buffet in 30 minutes... if I'm going to get back down to a reasonable weight, I have to DON'T DO THAT.)

It is actually harder this time, because before the rapist-in-chief got re-elected, I was down to 220 and could finish a 5k in <28 minutes.

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Exercise is good for mental health

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

"You just eat less and exercise more."

- Crunch Bandicoot, Crash Nitro Kart

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

All I can think about is how Crash Bandicoot's main series games are basically doing exercises to get entire crates full of apples.

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[–] zeroConnection@programming.dev 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, it's WAY easier to avoid eating that 1000kcal burger, than to burn 1000kcal

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

It's crazy how much work it is to maintain a mid physique. I gym/cardio 6 days a week and am training for a marathon and will still put on weight if I don't track what I eat.

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[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

caloriemaxxing doesn't just have to be on the treadmill: You can also suffer on a stationary bike!

[–] mech@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You burn 73 calories by running less than 10 minutes.
A 30 minute jog burns over 300.
Do that twice a week and it amounts to a body weight difference of 90 lbs. (300000 calories) over 10 years with the same diet.
A healthy weight isn't something you achieve quickly and then you're done and can go back to your old "normal" lifestyle.

The human body is kinda magical. If you live an active life, take the stairs, exercise, commute by bicycle, and walk a lot, it'll change to become better at being active over time.
If you sit on your ass all day and eat a lot, it'll optimize itself for sitting on its ass and eating a lot.
So your body does its best to adjust to what you want to do.

(Of course there are medical exceptions where that doesn't work right, too. And the prevailing culture and car-centric infrastructure in the US doesn't make it exactly easy to be active in your daily life.)

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[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

To me the point of regular exercise, especially cardio, is that if I run every day, my body simply doesn't want to eat the unhealthy food. I can't run if I've eaten a sleeve of Oreos that day. And afterwards my body craves hearty, healthy meals and vegetables.

[–] BlackLodgeCooper@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

On the contrary, when I'm going for a long bike ride, I'm literally drinking syrup for fuel and eating high carb snacks.

The carbs are great sources of energy, but aren't meant for post workout. Just enough to power through a long, multi-hour cardio session and avoid bonking out.

It's the reward you get to have while doing the work and a healthy meal with whole foods is what you have afterwards. Good to train yourself that the sweets should never be at the end.

For anyone only doing short exercise sessions, absolutely no reason to carb load or fuel on anything other than water and maybe some electrolytes. Especially if weight loss is the goal. Even then, diet should be priority 1 over exercise. That one Oreo could cost you 30 minutes to burn off.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I don't understand the idea of "rewarding" yourself with crappy food after you exercise to burn calories.

I suggest adopting the mantra "food is not reward, food is not entertainment".

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[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 8 points 3 weeks ago

People see that and think: wow exercise is pointless, instead of, maybe it's weird to eat a 1200kcal meal at mcdonalds

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