If you're willing to abandon your ideals for any reason, then you never really had them
Right? And this triangulation bullshit rarely if ever has utility value, to boot. What did the Dems get from 30-40 years of triangulation!?
Everything the Republicans wanted. Which meant the Republicans had to find new things to want. Meaning it's time for more triangulation!
Roe died under a Democrat government!
Sacrifices for protecting democracy!
Average lib then
Exactly
Liberals really believe there's no such thing as negotiation, compromise, or long-term strategy. They don't believe in undermining your opponents either. They don't believe in temporarily alliances that only exist so you can screw over your competition later. They will brow beat us about how Lenin said to vote for liberal parties, but miss the part about how he meant voting for parties that are allied with socialist parties.
The only thing liberals believe is abandoning your ideals at the slightest provocation and becoming a standard conservative.
we love our dev instance comrades, don't we folks
Ah, you accuse my ideology of incoherence, but did you know it has its own Wikipedia page? I bet you feel silly now.
He's still among us
Was it you???
95+% of people on American tv news: "I got an idea here. Biden should move to the right..."
oxjox: "I'm a liberal socialist and I got an idea here. It's something to consider. Maybe you guys haven't thought about it. Biden should move to the right..."
Words mean what I think they mean and not what they actually mean. Why yes I am a lib
And if you disagree then you're doing a linguistic prescriptivism. Not me though, I would never do that.
On this day, Trans Visibility Day, I will forgive them
Why would Biden make Easter illegal for the trans holiday to replace it?
You're still allowed to do all the traditional Easter practices, but we're basically just rebranding the holiday to be trans instead of Christian.
The hose aren’t your grandpa’s Easter eggs
Problem is that 99.9% of the time what they think will be “whatever it takes to get votes” means moving economically to the right, mostly the same on social issues, perhaps a bit more xenophobic, and amp up the militarism. The uncomfortable reality for libs is, the “abandoned ideals” position that would peel off votes from republicans in many area of the country would be beerniecrat economics but with strong gun rights.
The larger issue though is that a lot of voters aren’t turned off by the particular positions but because they see democrats (with good reason) as being shifty and untrustworthy. A few pivots here and there a couple months before the election won’t fix that. Which is part of the problem with this “vote blue no matter who,” constantly chasing the current cycle politics, there’s never any long-term planning.
Quick, everyone link your specific niche ideology's Wikipedia page
I'll start https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_International_Posadist
There's no Wikipedia page for Marxism-Satanism-Animeism no how many times I create it
It's because the feds control wikipedia and don't want the One True Form of Marxism to be known to the public.
a standard liberal going through the political ideology section on wikipedia:
"I’ll have two national socialists, a syndicalist large, a anarcho-capitalist with extra dip, a marxist-leninist, two anarcho-communists, one with molotovs, and a large liberal."
This is what I felt like doing to this user after I saw the Wikipedia link drop
I would put down Nazbolism as an example of a hilariously incoherent ideology but I don't actually want to be associated with it.
Every time US politics is mentioned here or lemmygrad, I swear these libs come out of the woodwork to "umm acktually" us and demand we vote Biden. How do they keep finding us? Do they search for keywords like "Biden" in order to come in and scold us for not supporting a genocide war criminal?
I mean this is everyone's default front page. Just by volume libs on instances federated with us are going to see our threads first until they (or their admin) changes the default sort.
That's what it looks like on Hexbear, but most of the instances we're federated with are also federated with .world, and that tends to dominate all of their front pages.
ah good point I forgot about those losers. they finally started hitting our comment volume on posts?
Oh, fair enough. I never use all so I assumed most people don't. I guess they'll see something talking about Biden and jump in to defend him from the evil tankies.
Hexbear posting is too strong.
Do you disagree?
~~AOC~~ Biden is doing what the ~~unions~~ Republicans wanted
do you disagree?
I'm convinced liberal socialtwas a bit account that grew too large and gained sentience. Which one of you was it that created that Frankenstein?
hey at least they were honest and included "liberal" in the name of their ideology.
Feel like shit, just want him back
the_dunk_tank
It's the dunk tank.
This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.
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