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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by RNAi@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

What's next? Want me to give presentations in fucking Prezi? Start running I'll kill you with a rock

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[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago

And 9 times out of 10 your boss will still ask for it to be done in Excel anyway

[-] Hexbear2@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago

My work uses Tableau. It's a data visualization program, so you can present live data on dashboards, instead of creating weekly powerpoints. My work still creates powerpoints. margot-disgust

[-] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

tableau is so mind-numbingly slow at my work that it is only useful for generating images for my powerpoints sad-boi

[-] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago

Tableau, Qlik, Fabric, Power BI, oh my...

Capitalist efficiency, a dozen products that all do the same thing badly

[-] abc@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago

Me, an underpaid hourly worker who cannot attend company outings anymore because I was forced to move 3 hours away from the office due to the fact that they refuse to pay me more: bottom-speak Can we please buy Evernote if every piece of information about anything across our entire corporate platform is stored in some random notebook or note that inevitably gets lost or otherwise deleted like once every year when you fire the hourly employee who created the notebook & no one realizes?? I personally have like almost 1,000 individual notes in one notebook for stuff that I had to figure out on my own and I'd like to not see the "please buy" popup everytime I open it to reference something.

My higher paid boss: No trade-offer But we can buy Guru, which is similar enough but completely lacks any personal features or notebooks, and to top it off - we'll have the coworker who recommended it to me steal all the notes you personally wrote for your own use/referencing and reupload them to Guru for EVERYONE to have. normal

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I worked at a place that used the Teamwork app to manage projects. Pretty simple, useful to-do list.

I'd literally just go in there and see a list of tasks people requested of me, organized by what day I needed to have shit done. As they would add stuff, they could see if I had a lot of stuff already due. And you'd see all the shit you did, checked off. Actually pretty satisfying, felt a bit like a (boring) video game.

We switched to JIRA.

JIRA.

The boss was so fucking stoked about it. He thought we'd get really accurate work estimates out of it. And that's what it was designed around- not to help give important information to us, but for us to give information to management.

No personal to-do features. Just hunting through fucking bullshit to find out if you had to do anything. Hunting back through shit once you did it, filling all these fucking text fields, hunting every time for "project type" to also properly categorize what you did. Realizing you forgot something on a previous screen, and having to X out of the one you finally filled out, and having to add some fucking field and then re-enter everything all over again. And let me restate, when someone wanted something, you COULDNT TELL. It had a notification feed, but the feed was literally filled with notifications that somebody created a task for someone else, that they added a start date for someone else, an end date for someone else, added a type, added a description, added hours, added this and that. The widgets created by Jira to solve this problem couldn't even handle the volume of projects and would, for instance, pick a random 99 items to check out of however many you were allowed to see.

We went form spending 3 or 4 hours a week plugging shit into Teamwork and some other app, to spending NEARLY TWO ENTIRE DAYS A WEEK FUCKING WITH JIRA

They eventually asked us to LOG the TIME spent IN JIRA and 2 weeks later they actually completely gave up on Jira. We just completely stopped tracking our work.

[-] abc@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

Hunting back through shit once you did it, filling all these fucking text fields, hunting every time for "project type" to also properly categorize what you did. Realizing you forgot something on a previous screen, and having to X out of the one you finally filled out, and having to add some fucking field and then re-enter everything all over again. And let me restate, when someone wanted something, you COULDNT TELL. It had a notification feed, but the feed was literally filled with notifications that somebody created a task for someone else, that they added a start date for someone else, an end date for someone else, added a type, added a description, added hours, added this and that. The widgets created by Jira to solve this problem couldn't even handle the volume of projects and would, for instance, pick a random 99 items to check out of however many you were allowed to see.

normal We switched from JIRA to Azure like a year ago for ticketing and I actually miss it lmao. ADO is this but 100x worse in my experience.

They eventually asked us to LOG the TIME spent IN JIRA and 2 weeks later they actually completely gave up on Jira. We just completely stopped tracking our work.

They were planning a pivot to Salesforce where they'd do the exact same thing again you just didn't see the VISION agony-shivering

[-] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

My company does use Jira for arranging tasks into my list and for me to finish them and log time on them, but it works well for me, so maybe they put in the effort to set it up better for me. IDK /shrug

Unfortunately the whole company is moving to Azure thingies and everything in Azure is SHIT it's actually SO DOGSHIT and missing all the features I rely on. If they ever put the Jira stuff in Azure I'll probably quit. Unfortunate cause the people there are nice. Thankfully Jira seems untouched for now. :yikes:

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

Probably the main downfall was the amount of task switching I had to do. I wasn't part of a specific team, but was instead split across 3 teams due to my technical skill. People would ask me to do little shit and answer little questions all throughout the day at random. Like 5 minutes, 15 minutes, etc. Most people seem to use Jira to log programming work and it's like 4 hours here 2 hours there. Spending 10 minutes clicking around isnt a problem for them

[-] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah that sucks.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

Review time - we don't see you doing all the extra work your bootlicker co-workers do. Yes you do your job but because you don't bootlicker we're going to mark you down on your reviews and say you have a bad attitude. Why you no enjoy?

[-] abc@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

Manager who sits in pointless meetings from 7am-3pm daily and collects their salary: You're an integral part of the team - thanks for everything you do, like write copy at the last minute for our new product when I frantically message you and the other competent underpaid people on your team on slack and ask who wants to 'help' me with a project. (literal thing that has happened to me - and no I was not even a part of the fucking marketing department)

Same manager but after you bring up the fact that they promoted someone who you literally trained when they were hired & still get asked questions weekly by, but you haven't seen any promotion or raise in 5 years: We had to promote them because they're taking on additional duties as part of the project they helped out with. You never seem to volunteer but I'd definitely recommend doing so, since that's the best way to move into a new position!!

[-] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

promotion based on who volunteers? But it's mostly idiots who volunteer to do stuff.

I see

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago

I remember one job, we used some project mgmt took called Wrike.

WORST NAME EVER HOLY SHIT

[-] odmroz@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago
[-] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

i know these programs and like them... how much of a part of the problem am i...?

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

Eh.

I just can't believe they thought of that name for it and didn't stop to go "hey...wait a minute..."

[-] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

oh crud, i never really thought of the name, i honestly just picture the logo

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

How can we market our bullshit software we stole from our college buddy but gave them no credit and no shares? There's a dozen of these thing out there. How about this - our digital turd will make people "Like Work". young-sheldon

cap-think What if we combine the words somehow? Work...like...work..Liork..Werk....Twerk....no no...Wrike..holy shit I'm a genius! bazinga

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Gonna be real awkward when version 3 comes out

[-] Cherufe@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

Thank God I only use excel if I had to learn a new program I would do a unabomber

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

How can we repackage the same training about the same topic, but make it seem like an "updated" version so people will continue to pay us or make it seem like I did something new?

Here"s a graph. Here's a "new phrase / acronym". Here's a new shape! Look at all the hard work I do!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tableau_Software

American interactive data visualization software company focused on business intelligence. It was founded in 2003 in Mountain View, California, and is currently headquartered in Seattle, Washington. In 2019 the company was acquired by Salesforce for $15.7 billion. At the time, this was the largest acquisition by Salesforce (a leader in the CRM field) since its foundation  It was later surpassed by Salesforce's acquisition of Slack.

So an extremely over priced, now outdated fancy Excel sheet generator? $15.7 Billion? How? And then it's made moot by Slack a few years later? Hey Salesforce - if you're just tossing bilions around for a fart I got some to-the-moon graphs for ya all-my-apes-gone

Someone wasted a shit ton of your company's money for trump-anguish "not good" bullshit. And now you all have to endure it to show that HR monkey waste of company money is justified.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago

Boss probably golfs with a salesforce rep that bought him a hooker

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

15.7 billion dollars for excel

[-] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

Slack surpassed it in value, but they are completely unrelated products.

[-] Bobson_Dugnutt@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

WTF is RingCentral, just use Zoom like a normal person

[-] Washburn@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

I had to install a new not-Zoom web conference software on my work pc for literally one meeting and now it opens automatically every day 🙃

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Unless you specifically make dashboards, Tableau isn't really necessary for you to know. Like I have Tableau on my resume, but most of the time I'll just make sure the guys that make the dashboards have a clean dataset that refreshes on reliable intervals. Do some tutorials, and get familiar with how data importing works and the basics of Tableau (there should be specific interview questions online), but unless you're specifically doing dashboarding you don't need to know too much.

Hell, even if you do dashboarding chances are people will ignore your dashboard and ask you to create a powerpoint or a deck with the visualizations lmao.

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

oh wow wow hold on, Tableau is paid

These fucking dipshits pretend me to know how to use a stupid paid gizmo that does a fraction of what I can do in R you fucking idiots I'm gonna get La Chancla

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

Yeah, my resume right now is Python + SQL (does everything for my job) and a dozen pieces of expensive software that my boss insists we must make use of.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 6 months ago

Im starting to use python in everything I can and got to finally get the Python SQL connection work, unfortunately can't get it to work in a jupyter notebook or in an interactive python, so I have to run the scripts, wait 10 minutes and then fix any error or do another step on the process. Funnily enough, is importing the pandas library the bottleneck of the process, the SQL queries are somehow fast in comparison.

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

I can't help much on the sql connector end (they're black magic and I'm grateful to the sql gods every time they work). But I have a couple of small tips, one if you have CRUD access on the sql server, it's useful to make a small table to use as a way to debug the import script quicker, if no crud access then using top or limit in your sql query would do the trick. Another thing, you may already be doing this, but in your script where you pull data from sql it's generally better to write to a parquet file rather than something like csv. It preserves the pandas dataframe structure which can be slow to cteate.

Also, you can definitely get sql connectors to work in a jupyter notebook, but probably not worth the effort. It's not like on the data pull stage you're doing any exploratory work anyway.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 6 months ago

The problem really is that the SQL server doesn't accept connections from my pc, so I had the IT guys install an embedded version of Python in a server that could connect to the SQL server, then from VS code im selecting that Python as the kernel, it's only work as scripting because everytime I run it it use that external Python to run the script in a terminal. On the other hand, the SQL scripts I run them on some Microsoft sql server application, and the Python I just wanted it to do different queries and then process the queries with pandas and export them formatted on excel or wharever.

[-] ChapoKrautHaus@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago
[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

my dad has been urging me to learn tableau since 2016

[-] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

My life is more or less making and using these silly softwares.

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