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[–] dragonlover@lemmy.zip 6 points 13 hours ago

OP If you want the best of both worlds try WAFRN. It's both ATProto (bluesky) and activitypub (mastodon, etc) so you can engage with both communities. It also has some pretty robust blocking features for removing content you don't want to see.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago

We need to learn from past mistakes.

When Jeff Bezos buys bluesky in 2035 what?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

It's fine but discovery still sucks and genrally it's very low effort. I'd recommend spending the first few hours finding the right profiles to follow as the general post quality is very low but there are gems worth finding.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

If you're signing up for ATproto, I'd avoid Bsky and go for Blacksky instead. Although on Blacksky, the two public PDSes you can pick are cryptoanarchy.network and myatproto.social.

Also, Bsky has been trying to push ID lately while Blacksky isn't yet, but there's the chance that Bsky corporate could start to get hostile against Blacksky and other third parties and start to block them at some point.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you want microblogging social media just use mastodon (or one of it's forks). Even if Bluesky is decent now, it's owned by venture capital, so it's only a matter of time before it enshittifies.

[–] sylveon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Mastodon is not a viable alternative if you actually want to follow people. I tried to use it multiple times but almost nobody I care about is there. I’d love for Mastodon to be more popular but it just isn’t.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Sure. Right now, everyone has to make a trade-off between accepting a smaller network and engaging with corporate garbage designed to create rage and clicks. Personally I'm happy to sit on the smaller network and contribute a bit and wait for it to build naturally. That's why I'm here on Lemmy too.

[–] sylveon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

My entire point is that this isn't how it works for me. I use these platforms to keep up with personalities and organisations I care about. Almost none of those are on Mastodon, so it's just straight-up useless to me. If Bluesky suddenly disappeared and Mastodon stayed exactly the same I wouldn't switch, I'd just use neither.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I do like Mastodon as a platform, but it seems nobody really bothers to actually use it for communication. Just drop-posting updates on things with zero replies.

Maybe since it doesn't have all the addiction patterns or algos like other apps do? I'm really not sure.

I was considering going through the hassle of setting up a Mastodon server for me and my family and friends only but... something tells me I'd run into the same problem lol.

...People just seem too busy and tired and scattered on 15 different incompatible social apps and geographic locations to bother with each other anymore. :(

I don't know, I've been on mastodon for like 8 years now and have never had any problem connecting with other people.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I only use it sporadically, but when I do, I often write replies and get replies. I think you need to mutually follow a lot of people before it starts working (like, a thousand or more). I'm not convinced the reply rate is significantly lower than BS or twitter..

Re: your last comment: for sure. To me that's another bonus of fediverse, e.g. since mastodon is at least partially able to interact with Lemmy and other fediverse apps, and that will presumably improve over time, eventually you will be able to do at lot of cross-app interaction from one place.

[–] catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago

I think you need to mutually follow a lot of people before it starts working (like, a thousand or more).

"This game becomes fun after 51st boss" energy.

[–] blah3166@piefed.social 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's a few problems with Bluesky if you're looking for a platform that won't eventually turn to shit.

  1. The platform is not meaningfully decentralized. With Bluesky directing its future, they have the power to do whatever they want with it, including attempting to monetize and clamp down on access.
  2. Because of point 1 above, Bluesky is able to easily censor users.
  3. To fix points 1 & 2 above you have to run the full stack: a PDS (~$5/month), relay (~$30/month), and AppView (~$300/month), which is prohibitively expensive for most people.

Hosting your own mastodon instance, which cannot be easily blanket-censored costs ~$5 bucks a month.

If a system is the outcome it produces, Mastodon is a platform for the people, Bluesky a platform for large orgs.

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago

And mastodon should be for official/gov instances, they shouldn't rely on some techbros stuffs. And people following those would make the jump, media are doing it to see Trump daily bullshit, so they would for other, and it would be easier because it's federated not like Trump Social

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

What about blacksky? Its completely independent afaik?

[–] belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s not quite as unhinged as Twitter, but it’s still corporate social media run by some very questionable people. It also had a huge bot problem; when I deleted my account it had ~300 bot followers (and like 10 real ones). That was a bit over a year ago, so it might’ve improved by now, but I don’t have high hopes

[–] 0xKesh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

Last time I tried Bluesky was the start of this year, with a week had like 20 bot accounts following me, maybe 1 real person

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago

The only way anyone saw any post was for me to hijack another person's feed. Otherwise, no engagement on anything

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bluesky has a lot of libs, which is certainly better then twitter these days, tho annoying in its own way sometimes (most recently: platner glazing up til he finally dropped.) more robust blocking then twitter, and lets you subscribe to lists of shitters to block. I have had issues with bots but they've been fairly easy to spot, and largely resolved when I subscribed to a list that simply blocks everyone who follows 10k+ people.

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bluesky has a lot of libs, which is certainly better then twitter these days, tho annoying in its own way sometimes

Yep. Twotter is ranting Nazis, BS is virtue signalling lefties.

[–] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Pretty sure the Nazis at Twitter do just as much virtue signalling. Every play in the right wing playbook these days is to pretend to care about a value and then do nothing for, or the opposite of, it.

[–] no_name_dev_from_hell@programming.dev 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

*libs. They are not leftists other than idpol lol.

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

America has a different definition of 'liberal' though

America has a different definition of leftism, but I'm no American and come from a country with actual leftist movements.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you want to interact with normal people, it’s the least-bad game in town. You might even find some established journalists, musicians, authors and such.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 1 day ago

If you prefer interacting with freaks and weirdos, stay here with us.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are those normal people, though?

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 1 points 1 day ago

Mostly not, but there are normal people among them. In the fediverse, it’s mostly those who feel that they have no place anywhere else. (Occasionally a curious normie makes an account. You see vast swathes of these accounts which were last logged into 2 1/2 years ago while they engage and build clout somewhere where there are others like them.)

[–] vinnymac@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I use it regularly and enjoy it, especially in the food, comedy, gaming, and programming communities. If you give it a go I highly recommend trying the “For You” feed. You pin it to your list of feeds, and it produces such shockingly relevant content. It definitely has a mixture of folks on it though, despite that people claim it’s one group on one platform and another group on Bsky.

I actually find the mixture of takes to not be all that different from Lemmy, just less pro-Chinese posts, and maybe even more anti-AI stances than I’ve seen around here.

If you want to hide from politics though, “For You” can definitely be a bit of a bubble. Being a left or right swipe away from escaping your bubble is a nice compromise imo.

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

I only just started dabbling in Bluesky. I like that your username is federated, which meant I'm using Bluesky without a Bluesky account, since I signed up elsewhere first.

It's definitely a lot more popular than Masto, et al, which isn't always a good thing. Sure there's all the famous people, but it makes it harder to find real people to follow. Or at least for me.

I have enjoyed the For You tab though.

[–] CombatWombat@feddit.online 3 points 1 day ago

I'd say if you're looking for a microblogging site, the best experience is following Bluesky accounts via bridgy from mastodon or piefed or misskey or something. Most accounts don't bridge, so you mostly avoid getting dragged into things, but the big accounts do so you can mostly follow what's going on.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago

Why would you use another privately owned platform that's likely to enshittify?

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I like BlueSky, and it's nowhere near as unhinged as Twitter.

As with how Twitter used to be, it's just a question of curatung your feed. If someone is an asshole you block them and move on.

The key difference is that you can choose to have a feed of only those you follow, and that's what you actually get, not algorithm-driven nonsense.

I left Twitter shortly after Elon bought it so I can't offer a comparison.

About the only thing I looked at on Bluesky was a feed from my home town. BS is great for local news and events. The only thing better is my collection of rss feeds. I closed my account before they started with the identity verification bs. Bluesky is largely vibe-coded if that is an issue for you.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Don’t know got ban from there saying that their algorithm push AI art as art and that AI art is not protected by author’s rights so you could copy-paste everything on some account.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't tell if there's a bunch of typos in that or if it's just nonsense...

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't say if BS pushes AI slop or not.

Anything produced by AI in the USA is not copy right protected, according to the Courts.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can’t say if BS pushes AI slop or not

If someone coded a bunch of chat it's to be against AI, but to use intentionally nonsensical grammar...

  1. It would be hilarious

  2. I can't think of any other explanation for what's going on here.

If you're an actual human giving an earnest attempt at communication...

We're cooked.