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Capitalism will not knowingly cause the collapse of human civilization or human extinction, as these are the primary vessels for creating more capital. However, Capital as a control system does require inputs, and nothing is currently signaling it that this is going to be a problem for capital creation long-term. It's like driverless car that is hurling towards a cliff because that will decrease the ETA to the beach.
To buy time and enough wealth to build their self sustaining multi generational bunker islands
There is no plan. Capitalism is not a cohesive scheme deliberately engineered and steered by the bourgeoisie. It's an engine that was set into motion at one point and has been trucking on by itself ever since. It preserves itself by rewarding those who uphold it and punishing those who dissent.
Let's say Jeff Bezos got the Ebenezer Scrooge treatment tonight and woke up a changed man who genuinely cares about his workers. If he tried to improve labor conditions at Amazon and it cut into profits, Amazon shareholders would sue into oblivion and some board of directors would appoint a new guy who's willing to do whatever it takes to make number go up. Every politician who tries to change the system gets drowned out by corporate donors simply protecting their short-term interests and every corrupt politician who works to maintain it gets rewarded.
There's nobody at the steering wheel here. The bourgeoisie is along for the ride just like you and me, they just have nicer seats. Capitalism sustains itself through the immediate short-term incentives it creates. If you sell out, you can have a nice life right now. If you don't, someone else will.
To prevent possible misunderstandings, let me say this: I don’t paint the figures of the capitalist and landlord in rosy colors—far from it. But individual persons play a role here only insofar as they are the personifications of economic categories, or the bearers of particular class relations and interests. My approach treats the development of society’s economic formation as part of natural history, as that type of process, and no other approach does less to make the individual responsible for conditions that he remains a creature of socially, however much he manages to transcend them subjectively.
— Karl Marx, Capital, Vol. 1, Preface to the 1867 Edition (Paul Reitter translation)
Correct analysis, and why systemic change is necessary and reformist movements are doomed to fail. Reformers necessarily disempower themselves under capitalism but keep the fundamental systemic incentives that ultimately lead to their efforts being undermined and themselves supplanted.
Great comment!
But to add to this, I think there could be, and sometimes even were, someone at the wheel of the capitalist system. This is the purpose of the US government. At some points in its history, it had people who were willing to moderate the tragedy of the commons enough for the bourgeoisie to benefit long-term by being forced to make short-term concessions (think FDR).
However, this is one of those cases where the base eventually overpowered the superstructure. The underlying law of capitalism (namely that of exponential capital accumulation) selects and/or bribes politicians to allow capitalists unlimited short-term profit maximization; after all, capitalists who don't bribe their way are eventually outcompeted, stripped of their capital, and replaced by those who do.
Ironically, this short-term maximization of profits lowers the long-term stability of the system itself, and gives us a path to destroy the system eventually.
Order of Lenin post. Really well put.
Your leaders were lying. NOBODY'S DRIVING buh-dugududa-buh-dugudusa-buh-beeneenowneeeow
Capital, not people, is in control of the prevailing world economic system. It does not have a point beyond increasing itself and its tendencies emerge from interactions with other social relationships and knock-on effects. Nobody is in charge, there isn't a point, and that's why it must be dismantled and replaced with a system run by and for the people.
Ian Wright's essay Capitalism as a Real God expands on this idea. The paradox of being rich and powerful is that you have tremendous agency to do whatever you want... provided that you expand Capital.
That is probably one of my favorite essays. It's a fantastic theory on why some of the actions of billionaires seems so alien. They're literally possessed by a parasitic creature that drives every last facet of their lives.
There is no endgame. Its fiefdoms fighting for next week's resources.
A cancer doesn't do anything but grow
Hungry ghosts don't have an endgame, they just keep eating. The billionaires want to eat everything, and once there aren't any poors left to eat they'll eat each other, and once they're the only person left alive they'll eat themselves. Endless hunger forever.
TESCREAL ideology has taken over Silicon Valley. They view AI as the next stage of "humanity" and view our continued existence as superfluous. They feel a sick sense of glee when they think about all the water being used and environment poisoned in the pursuit of their AI children because it's getting rid of all the undesireables as a side effect.
they want to own slaves and die of old age
This is what I'm thinking. They probably think deep in their hearts they can weather the storm then emerge from their bunkers and repopulate the earth in their image and be ruler of mankind.
[farts]
Yeah good luck with that buddy.
I think back of that one prepper who was morbidly obese, had giant stockpiles of canned food, and who wanted to do a practice run of staying in the bunker for a month.
Got a heart attack.
When you are so concerned with survival that you get yourself killed.
There is no endgame, that's the thing about money brain and the addiction to profits.
They are simply following the logic of their class 
unfortunately the 1918 German Revolution failed so we’re cooked
The plan is that humanity is obsolete. In order to travel the stars we need machines. We are the Gods that create those machines. We can upload our minds into them and live forever.
Well not wet but like, Elon musk.
as if uploading yourself has continuity. that's not you in the robot it's a copy.
There's a significant amount of them trying to bring about the biblical endtimes. There is no plan for the future, it's only for the right now
What's especially odd to me is that usually what I hear them describe as the "biblical end-times" is mostly unique to baptists. Like, I was brought up southern Baptist and went to a different denomination of Christian school, and they all but ridiculed the idea of the rapture and tribulation period. Many of them seemed to agree that Revelation was just symbolic of the church's persecution at the time of writing. Also there was at least one more disciple who wrote a "revelation," but it disagreed with John's, so it was struck from the canon.
you're thinking small, buddy, there are so many planets out there we can ruin (no I will not invest in science and education so we can actually build the rockets, i'll just give a trillion dollars to the ketamine man)
Based on the shit the tech bros say I think they genuinely want to engineer some master race in a bunker to retake the earth.
I know where the keys to the cement trucks are. I figure two loads over the front door should do it.
We need to develop intelligence and a target base in order to get them all.
Musk straight up wants an army of children to command. The designer baby shit is clearly popular among billionaires and if you actually listen to the designer babies who have grown up and are now activists, they’re gonna have a ROUGH time with that.
They want the world to end they’re fundamentally misanthropic bitter horrible people. Then they would want to rebuild the world in their image thinking of themselves as god probably.
The rest dont think past the next quarters profits until the wheels fall off this rollercoaster we’re on.
I don't think they can see that far. Even the ones with bunkers might be a minority. And the ones with bunkers still need to hire guys to tell them to consider putting shock collars on their guard slaves in them.
Actually, the shock collaring was something the billionaires came up with. They had to hire a guy to tell them not to do it, because if you shock collar your own security guys they're just going to kill you out of spite.
Always pay your guys/keep your guys happy. Cause once you dont they arent your guys. I dknt even employ people, I just feed people cause I work in a kitchen and can easilt sneak out industrial amounts of food. For some reason front of house doesmt get staff meals at my work, thst is absurd so if im working they dont need to ring in food. In response these people are My Guys now. I wasn't out there looking for Guys and im using this gender neutrally cause I was quoting but ans then elaborated, but you end out with Guys that way.
I've got people looking out for my interests all over town cause I have the free pizza and pasta. They can have the free food anyway, im not trying to buy power, but cool community power comes from people just wanting to get tou back however they can. I get so many sick groind scores kicked down. I havent had to buy clothes in over ten years. My work is in the same building as a brewery. Ive got the pizza, they got the beer and the bosses dont need to know we trade and creating thsi arrangement made me well loked by all the employees. I can also openly steal from the grocery store depending on who's on shift. I'm at a point with most where if the free food left the situation we would still be pals and willing to help each other out. But it is an amazingly easy way to get to that point. I guess I work with food and take it for granted but I csn see someone showing up with like 2 large pizzas and some pasta for the staff being a godsend
Legit most of the ones with bunkers might have plans to get to their bunkers but they probably have no idea how to get there if said plans fall apart or they don’t have help. Imagine Bezos and his wife trying to operate that horizontal skyscraper of a boat with just 2 pairs of hands.
Which I mostly bring up because it bears remembering when we think about how they are actively destabilizing the world outside the bunker while they themselves are outside their bunker.
They're white supremacists so if everyone else dies its fine (from their perspective) the only real lives will be in a bunker.
I bet they think they can transfer their "consciousness" into a computer network and exist in a destroyed environment.... Or they dumb and greedy idiots
They expect to die before it effects them, it's just egotism like a child that never grew up.
I think the plan is to replace workers with LLMs and robots (however delusional that may be) then they want the proles to die in WWIII and the first effects of global warming. They will retreat to their bunkers and try to upload themselves into machines.
In a weird way I think it's a response to global warming. Like instead of cutting down on how much energy each person uses with more efficient tech or rationing they just want to cut down on the number of people. Seems psychopathic enough a plan for the bourgeoisie to me.
the point is they get to maintain superiority over the poors
They are Darwinist who are competing not just with us, but each other. They want hell on Earth, because they believe THEY can survive it.
They are trying to kill everyone they can, because that is the natural law in their eyes.
They especially REALLY want the poor dead, as they believe the poor are unfit.
It's really sad when people comment "who would buy the stuff" as if it's a gotcha, as if they believe buying stuff is where their power comes from.
They especially REALLY want the poor dead, as they believe the poor are unfit.
What's key is that they tell themselves this to rationalize a predatory instinct, it's that instinct which is fundamental. Really they know there are poor people that are their match yet unlucky, or that they inherited wealth, but whenever they think about it they refuse to suppress the pleasure of murder.
Second Epstein island
Honestly, they might be gambling addicts. Markets do feel a lot like gambling, but this is gambling when it's rigged towards you. You can never win enough, it's just about the dopamine from number getting higher.
I sometimes talk to my friends about how they should "come get involved in the community, let's play cities skylines (or something like that) IRL". Capitalists are just playing cookie clicker irl
If they were capable of thinking past the end of the current quarter they'd never have become billionaires to begin with. Logic cannot save us here, there is no reasoning with the greed virus.
The endgame is being raptured. They believe that Israel will rise to a great power, but that Islam will then destroy it. And that will bring the second coming of Jesus and the rapture. So they'll be wisked away to heaven as the get to watch the woke and brown burn on earth.
90% of billionaires don't believe this. They just don't think that far enough. They're thinking how to grow their wealth over the next 3 months.
Lol, only those filthy peasant millionaires that only have a few hundred million have to think about their growth over the next 3 months. Billionaires own a firm to do that so they can focus on philanthropy and how to bring about the end of the world so they can get to heaven without having to die.