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This isn't how anything ever works, especially with bigots.

Well, yes, it is. Kids who used calculators to cheat with basic arithmetic will often struggle with learning more advanced concepts later on because they didn't get a "feel" for numbers, and I strongly suspect the same will happen with kids who start using LLMs before they know how research works.

It is totally appropriate to use calculators when you can already have an intuition for small numbers, and in just the same way students should learn to use LLMs, but only when they already know how to write and think and research stuff. Curriculum needs to adapt to this quickly, otherwise we will end up with a generation that outsources all their thinking to techbros.

Ok, so the first two sound reasonable, but blabbering about "non-retroactivity" and being against reparations is fucking pathetic. Imagine taking that legal position during Nuremberg.

In school exams when they have access to AI? Sure. In actual real world afterwards? I doubt it.

If all you do during school is ask LLMs to do most of the work for you, all you'll know by the end is how to prompt LLMs. Which is not actually a difficult skill to learn, by design, so if you focus on it instead of everything else you'll lose out.

Hopefully the education system adapts and invents ways to meaningfully integrate AI into classwork while forcing students to learn to think for themselves still. Otherwise the next generations will be even more cooked than mine.

Ok, so the systemd change was acceptable (since it was optional), this is absolutely not. Fuck this shit. If it's coming to NixOS I'm going to do everything I can to stop it, and otherwise I'm keeping a Nixpkgs patch that reverts the commit

I don't see a single comment like this here tho? It's either mocking him for his bigotry, wondering what the sport is, or mocking it as a rich-people-goofy-sport (which is still leagues away from "stay on the couch tard").

And then maaybe stop defaming her? Like, this post should be ban worthy by any reasonable instance and community rules?

This is a shitpost community, I'm pretty sure it is implied that everything posted here is satirical and/or ironic and/or made up for fun. You wouldn't sue The Onion for defamation either (or maybe you would, IDK)

None, sadly.

The requirement to check age is on the provider.

Well, if you're going that route, there are a whole bunch of other issues (apart from absolving parents from responsibility for their kids digital wellbeing). Either the provider just asks the user for their age (which is what we're doing now, and it's just 100% useless), or there would have to be some way to prove one's age. Presumably it would be via a government-issued token of some kind, ideally as a ZK proof. While there are some european countries where this is somewhat feasible, for most of the world issuing every resident a smartcard which can attest if one is an adult or not is just not possible. So, you'd be forced to either give out gov-signed certificates of age as files (which will be easily reused by kids to access stuff which they shouldn't), or you have a centralized server which can issue time-limited certificates on the fly based on some ID (which will tell the government that you wanna watch adult stuff), or you just have to upload your ID to the provider directly (I hope I don't need to explain why this is bad).

Meanwhile, what we are discussing right now is just a basic extension to parental controls. Notice how the field is not mandatory, you can just leave it empty, and I'd argue everyone who doesn't have kids should just do that. As it is implemented right now, the machine administrator decides if they want to use this or not and what to set the date to. Even if some distro complies with the stupid law and make it mandatory in california (which I'd argue they shouldn't), you can just enter 1970-01-01 and be done with it, because you decide what to put in that field during account creation.

This means any website can ask for your birth date. Then they store it, and use it for tracking. Private browser? HAH! Not your birth date!

Well, first of all, for now browsers don't even support reading userdb at all, and there's no way for website to request it. Then, I hope when it is implemented it will be hidden behind a website permission so that kids can decide if they want to share it or not (i.e. "this website wants to know you age: allow/deny"). For adults (if the california law gets implemented), I hope that "privacy" browsers will have a feature to return a random date (more than 18 years ago) every time if the field is not set in userdb, or you can just write a cronjob/systemd-timer that changes the date randomly every hour.

There is a question of random apps now having unfettered access to your child's birthday. This is indeed an issue, and poettering's approach of "just containerize it" is not very cool. It would be nice to have a way to gate userdb access behind a user prompt, similar to what I'm describing for browsers. I guess for now flatpaking everything you don't 100% trust not to read userdb is the only option.

Eh, this would make it 100% useless though.

I think it's fairly reasonable for adults to want to ensure a 10-year-old doesn't get mental health issues by being served hardcore BDSM porn unsupervised, or get scammed by a pig butcher on social media. Of course a curious 10-year-old can't be trusted to enter their real birth date. So, adding this info to a root-managed userdb kinda makes sense. At this point there's nothing to suggest that this age will be verified in any way, other than "the person entering it has write access to userdb". So in the current form it's just another tool for parents to control what their child sees (provided any apps actually use this field in the future).

However, I'd argue just the birth date is the wrong approach to this and it needs to be more granular.

Europe is SO small

Depends on what you count as Europe. If you include Turkey, Caucasus and/or the western part of Russia, it is fucking huge (~7500 km drive from Vorkuta to Cabo da Roca). Even if you only count EU countries, it's still not that small (~5000 km drive north-to-south). And it's also way denser than the US so there's more to see overall, you're not even covering any small country comprehensively in two weeks time.