Me in 2015 reddit in the_Donald Subreddit thought they were shitposting sarcasm but no. It was a coordinated Russian intelligence campaign to fuck with retarded voters
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r/the_donald used to be hilarious. Right up until it became serious.
It started that way. Then a large contingent of shit stains showed up not realizing it was a joke and agreed with everything.
There was a moderator coup. Reddit admins deliberately flipped it and immediately started banning anyone going "wait...you're serious?"
Same here. I learned about Flat Earthers, and assumed they were sarcastic, like Birds aren't Real. Took me two years of occasionally coming across their shit to realize they were serious. I was flabbergasted.
That's when I started to understand how stupid people can be. They can be all the stupid, and in unsettling numbers.
May i introduce you to antivaxxers
and/or sovereign citizens (this venn diagram has a lot of overlap)
Yea yea birds aren't real we all know that. But have you ever gotten really close to a bird? Like close enough to tell if it has dimension? NO. OBVIOUSLY BIRDS ARE FLAT!
wasn’t that 4chan in general, it’s fun to post far right memes and jokes until the actual far right shows up and doesn’t know the difference
Mostly started very quickly in 2015.
I wonder how hard it is to infiltrate and influence an anonymous message board.
Considering trends are started by a single dedicated schizo I'd say not hard. I'm pretty sure one very dedicated person made fit and beyond believe onions boosted test.
Pretty much my trajectory for making Nazi jokes. Used to be fun and edgy when I was younger, but once I found out there were actual Nazis these days, it was horrifying.
I can why people stick to Roman jokes
Yeaaaah I have a similar story. It's all fun and games until you realize the other person actually does want to kill jews.
The amount of jews I want to unironically kill is zero.
Yeah, this doesn't excuse anything, but as a millennial growing up there was this whole trend of "dark humor" and "anti-jokes." Basically the more fucked up and wrong something was, the funnier it was supposed to be.
That doesn't make it okay, but we were just stupid teenagers. You could say we shoulda known better, but at the time that was just the trend. Like skibidi toilet and other brianrot today. Everyone knew it wasn't serious, that no one could actually mean those jokes.
At least, we thought we did. It seems as we grew up, we diverged into two main groups. Those who realized how those "jokes" could actually be harmful and grew out of it, and those who started taking the jokes more and more seriously until they started meaning it and it became part of their personalities.
I think that's a huge source of disconnect with Gen Z. I don't think they ever had a concept of dark humor. By the time they reached that age, the trend was more towards acceptance and inclusion, social awareness and non-harmful language. The old "sticks and stones" no longer applied.
So to early Gen Z, late Millennials probably looked like sociopaths. Especially since we were already on social media, and some of that immature bullshit is indelibly marked on the internet.
And you can't just tell them "it was just a joke, we didn't mean it, it wasn't serious" because that's such an alien concept to them.
I think that's a huge source of disconnect with Gen Z. I don't think they ever had a concept of dark humor.
I mean, I dunno; I think you're right in the sense that Gen. Z doesn't do edgy humor nearly as much but they are still known for irony poisoning and I think you get similar outcomes, just (now) with the veneer of there being, really, a truth to what you're saying.
"Helen Keller didn't really do all that" is squarely a Gen. Z "joke" with just as awful implications as dark humor.
I mean I'll fully admit that I don't know the intricacies of Gen Z humor. I've heard some of it, and there's a lot about it that I don't understand. It can be amusing with the sheer volume of absurdism that it contains. I used to despair over "not getting the joke" until I realized that in many cases, there's nothing to get. It's just absurdist buffoonery channeled into shitpost-tier memes.
Maybe they do have elements of dark humor that I haven't picked up on, but if so it's very different from millennial dark humor. A lot of the shit we used to joke about would not fly these days, and in many cases it's with good reason. You'd be labeled a psycho if you tried.
Something similar happened to me once, ended up sharing something that I figured was satire and antifa, then it did end up in fact being satire but also nazi. Basically everyone thought it was on their side, correct or not.
That's why I don't engage with that stuff. I understand shitposting, but not everyone can tell the difference. Especially if a bot is scraping to train a model or build a profile on users.
This is why the /s is important. It should always be explicitly clear when a post is satire, if being taken seriously could be harmful.
That's why I hate it when people say "chill, it's just a shitpost, it's not that deep." Like, this is how disinformation spreads...
There's a subreddit called TrumpZone or something like that that I joined because of all the over the top bootlicking memes. It took a few days before I realized that the memes weren't being posted ironically and the members really were batshit crazy.
Didn't r/TheDonald start out ironic and then slowly mutate into being unironic.
Same for r/MURICA. Sad case, it used to be really funny.
This is why i dont like or support shit posting. FAR TOO MANY people simply can not understand.
They said, while participating in a community about 4chan posts.
I wonder how flat earthers explain it's winter here in S. America and summer in Europe, at the same time.
... explain?
Piss off with you pro-establishment crap.
We are but a spinning plate in the great cosmic microwave oven of the universe
I think it was either a Miniminuteman or a Folding Ideas video that showed what some flatties proposed: the Sun moves in a wacky repeating spiral pattern above the surface. It's closer to the Arctic during summer and to the Antarctic during winter, which they claim to explain the different angles of incidence. Obviously that doesn't conform to any physical laws, observed phenomena, ideas that a person of ordinary intelligence might come up with, or even other flat Earth models... but flatties are nothing if not persistent in their dogmatic rejection of reality.
very easily:
Their worldview is heavily built around Christian magic nonsense: The sky is a dome (firmament). Gravity doesn't exists, it's just buoyancy. They probably assume wind currents change and blow the cold off the icewall surrounding the world edge...
I imagine it is like moving a lamp over a table. Closer parts have summer and further away parts have winter.
This is why in many native cultures they stay away from being sarcastic. They've learned that it can be harmful to a society and they have the empathy to not want to make certain people who are out of the loop feel dumb
Wdym by native cultures? I'm from a native culture that is known for our sarcasm in humour, not sure if you mean something else by that.
they mean they make up random shit on the internet because it makes them feel superior to whitey. likely being whitey themselves, but not like those other whiteys who are so sarcastic and cultural destructive, no sir.
A lot of groups take advantage of shitposters in this way. Oh woe is me.
Poe's law
....did the friend know too?
Flat-earth shitposters and actual flat-earthers may have their differences, but at least they can all agree that Apollo 11 was staged