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The term Tankie has a clear definition that Cowbee likes to ignore:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those > who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the > occurrence of the events thereof.

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[–] Rom@hexbear.net 59 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

The term Tankie has a clear definition

lenin-dont-laugh

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 51 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"how can i be a tankie if i didn't take part in the literal suppression of the hungarian uprising? smuglord"

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago

i'm not old enough to have been a tankie

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They aren't wrong. The clear definition is "anyone I don't like". I don't know what's so hard about that

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[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 57 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

@Cowbee@hexbear.net if I were in your shoes I would be walking on sunshine. You've really managed a 'Loved by Your Friends, Feared By Your Foes' thing going. These weirdos are losing it over you for giving calm and we'll sourced replies consistently. These folks have really put you on a pedestal or they dug so deep it has the same effect, to mix metaphors.

So yeah, congratulations on becoming the Grendel to the lemmy libs. That would put a spring in my step.

[–] Wisp@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Really funny seeing the most patient person in the lemmyverse being so villainized specter

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm so much meaner and I've never seen myself on there, I swear they go after him because he's so patient.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago

It gets under their skin to not be able to easilt dismiss someone. Us mean people provide suppressing fire. Its a combined effort.

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[–] yellowfattybean@hexbear.net 54 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

They have to try so hard to disparage and silence Cowbee exactly because Cowbee is convincing, patient, and reasonable

[–] Dirt_Possum@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

That's exactly it. They have no actual defense against Cowbee's method of respectful patience (and they absolutely can't compete with his well rounded knowledge of history that he can back up with citations even they can't deny). So their only option is to fabricate outright ridiculous lies and twist themselves in knots to try paint him as the bad guy somehow. This time he's the big bad guy who must be literally boycotted because... he doesn't know about the wikipedia definition of once-niche term now used as a catch-all by anti-communists? Um. Right. Ok, libs. But no, I think we can safely assume that Cowbee is as well aware as the rest of us what reactionaries and liberals mean when they start frothing about "tankies."

Edit: It's also amusing they're calling to boycott not just Cowbee himself but an entire instance because a single user on it is supposedly unaware of the wikipedia definition of an epithet. An epithet every ML has encountered thousands of times. And this is supposed to make the fediverse, (which is famously all about sequestration and disconnecting people from each other and challenging ideas) a better place.

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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Cowbee is convincing, patient, and reasonable

Their response would make sense for someone like me and how hateful and open I am with it, but they're going after someone who is basically like a fucking kindergarten teacher, in comparison

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[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 52 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Join the lemmy.ml boycott today and help foster a better Lemmy-verse! No more posts, comments (except to counter their propaganda ofc!) or upvotes on any comms on the Lemmy.ml instance!

What fucking nerds lol

If you wanna block an instance you don't like, that's fine! But for the love of god don't try to make it sound like some sort of heroic deed: You're clicking buttons

Also: The specter of Cowbee remains strong specter

[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 37 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

this is such redditor behaviour. i think they're lost

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[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 51 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You ain't done nothin' if you ain't been called a ~~red~~ tankie

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

My irl anarchists suck and use the term sincerely irl. I asked one what they meant by that and suddenly it wasnt an Open and Free Meeting of Minds or what fucking ever.

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 50 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Ukraine, much like Palestine, wants to mind their own business but can’t because they’re being invaded. How do you hate Israel but also support Russia? It’s madness.

I don't think that description applies to either of those states

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ukraine was just minding its own business, slaughtering 13,000 ethnic Russians in the Donbas when giant meany Putler decided to invade for no reason!

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 40 points 3 weeks ago

listen bub, history began when i started paying attention and NOT A MOMENT SOONER

[–] vanDerVaartBlackenedRanch@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
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[–] DogThatWentGorp@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

It's wild someone would even boil down something as complicated as international politics down to "you see, the country is like a little guy, and it WANTS things" let alone leaving out the exact and specific reasons why both of those wars started and what each side hopes to achieve in their outcome.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Reasons are for real countries like the USA

Every other country is weird and foreign

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[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 47 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m banned from a bunch of places cuz of an interaction with cowbee

-- AdolfSchmitler

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Lmfao I didn’t even see the username when I read that comment, what incredible self awareness.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (12 children)

Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those > who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the > occurrence of the events thereof.

So, tankie is a term used to describe communists that push back against any liberal propaganda, because obviously liberals never say anything wrong or disparaging about communism, they are only ever truthful and correct.

The communists that don't push back against liberal propaganda? They're good not-tankies.

This is basically "anyone that disagrees with liberals is a tankie". It's a non-falsifiable thought-terminating cliche intended to prevent people from listening to anyone to their left other than the people that claim to be leftists but ultimately only reinforce liberal propaganda.

"Communist" that supports liberal narratives = good

Communist that performs any struggle against liberals = tankie.

It's painfully obvious why Cowbee just defaults to "Tankie just means communist". It's true and correct. Liberals consider any communist that disagrees with them a tankie, and any communist that does not disagree with liberals is obviously still a liberal, that's kinda how ideology works.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 39 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Liberals believe in a hypothetical good communist that would not qualify as a tankie. This imaginary communist was cooked up by liberals out of first principles for how they believe a communist should act and behave, because the core instinct of the liberal is to accuse their enemies of being secret right-wingers who are lying about their intentions. The hypothetical good communist would have ideals that we would say are similar to an ultra-leftist, or the completely fictional "patriotic communist" thing. As in:

  • rejection of association with any current socialist state
  • rejection of militant organizing
  • rejection of any intermediary stage in the progression towards communism. Immediately abolish the commodity form
  • complete agreement with the western world order

So under their metric for a non-tankie leftist, Che Guevara would be a bad communist because he seized state power and used violent means. Whereas a good communist would be someone like Vaush, an internet streamer who advocates for the election of Democrats to public office.

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[–] Rindogang@hexbear.net 43 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] Athena5898@hexbear.net 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

On another note. You can always tell the actual decency of a community on what is allowed and what isn't. I ended up here cause I got sick and tired of the casual bigotry elsewhere. Normally a good way to make me leave. Hexbear isn't perfect but its hell of a lot better then others.

Basically if you are not putting Black and other marginalized people first, your politics are probably going to suffer. If you do put them first, you'll end up in the right place eventually.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 41 points 3 weeks ago

The .world thread has an Adolf Hitler user and another with lots of upvotes using the R-slur. Who knew anti-communists would turn out to be racist and ableist?

[–] pleiades@lemmy.ml 39 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

they have a dedicated hating community? son im crine

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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's no elaborate argument here, it really is as simple as "the term Cowbee said is vague and gets applied selectively has a clear definition" and the definition may as well just be "a tankie is a communist who supports bad things"

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Has an elected Democrat used the word "tankie" yet? I know it's coming.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Democrats would have to acknowledge the left exists first, instead of putting their hands over their ears when they run into their genoicde meetings

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That thread in .world is literally the most loser thread i ever read in entire fediverse, i recognise half of posters there from them being rabid anticommunists who get throughly humiliated every time they write anything outside of their safe spaces. Losers converge!

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago

Oh look, you've collected all the fascists in one thread!

[–] Inui@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Why can't anyone there give a "non-tankie" example of an actual communist organization that accomplished anything of note? I'm not talking about their local friends, but a movement, a country, whatever. There's never any example.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Succeeding is oppressive. Romanticizing an endless struggle is what gets the goods

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[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

'tankie' is the type of term one uses, when their actually-existing socialist opponent defends itself with militant measures to survive against foreign-backed violence and sabotage, but they can't technically call them 'Stalinist'.

anyways, good luck to those boycotting - the troika of hexbear.net, lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml lived, is living and will live, without such wrecker scum.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

the troika of hexbear.net, lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml lived, is living and will live, without such wrecker scum.

We will. The problem is that what they want is to wall us off from the rest of the fediverse so that as it inevitably grows (as corporate social media continues to enshittify), no one will see what anti-imperilaists and communists have to say. They want to keep the politics a well-manicured liberal-only garden - with exceptions made for reactionaries and fascists of course. They want to make sure any reddit alternative still maintains the same narratives that reddit maintains, curbing the spread of radical thought. This is the raison d'être of piefed, of lib.world, and of all the calls to boycott the "tankie" instances.

Obviously they'd love to totally kill off the principled Marxist instances entirely, but since that's not possible, they want to cut us off, the purpose is to keep us sequestered and hidden so they can demonize us without anyone seeing how much sense we make and how explanatory Marxism-Leninism is with regards to geopolitics and the absurdity of the state of the world.

It's literally why so much hate is poured on Cowbee in particular because he is so good at just laying out the facts in a straightforward and totally non-combative way that any lurkers who read his comments won't be able to deny he's correct. And that is what they can't have, what is truly intolerable to them: more and more people recognizing we aren't this extremist fringe, but are simply people willing to do the radical thing of applying scientific methodology to social, political, and economic realities rather than accept whichever propaganda is most convenient.

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Don't attack my bovine eusocial pollinator like that who do you think you are

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[–] RondoRevolution@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i-cant nazi.world at it again, comrade Cowbee lives rent free in the heads of these liberal-scratched-1liberal-scratched-2

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[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago

Don't you know that you're only a real communist if you oppose all communist countries and anti-imperialist and anti-capitalist forces in the world?! Communism isn't about reality or results, it's about jerking yourself off over being morally superior to others despite doing nothing to actually make the world a better place!

[–] agentant@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Moomoo_Milk@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Anyone who gets this caught up into relatively tiny online message board discourse is deeply unserious. I really don’t have any clue what anyone hopes to accomplish by creating a post such as that.

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[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

All revolutions are authoritarian. It’s the forceful dispossession and usurping of one class by another. That’s inherently going to be violent and based on authority derived from the workers.

And we all know that the imperialists of the world will never let a communist project exist in peace, they will assault it with never ending attempts to destroy and undermine and isolate it. So until there’s global communism and no imperialism, an ongoing authoritarian state is required to protect the communist project.

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[–] RedNajm@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Lol that top comment with the ableist slur, they can't help themselves. What a non-toxic thread I'm sure

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

We need a special version of the rent-free emoji where it's Cowbee in their brain

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