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I don't think that description applies to either of those states
Ukraine was just minding its own business, slaughtering 13,000 ethnic Russians in the Donbas when giant meany Putler decided to invade for no reason!
listen bub, history began when i started paying attention and NOT A MOMENT SOONER
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It's understandable to think Russia just started the war in 2022 out of nowhere if you lived on the regular internet this whole time and had nothing but mainstream liberal sources. If this was Instagram or a more "normie" website, for lack of a better term, I'd be totally empathetic with libs who think Ukraine and Palestine are comparable. But being so incurious as to still believe that's the only version of events despite being on Lemmy, where it's pretty easy to spend 5 minutes reading what the "tankies" have to say and understand there's a different historical narrative where the war started in 2015, is just so sad.
The war started in 2014 when Russia first invaded. It did explode into a far bigger conflict in 2022 though.
you realize that the CIA-backed nazi coup occurred before the Russian invasion right? Check your timeline. The first shot was done by NATO.
Without the Euromaidan coup, there would have been no annexation of Crimea. Either Russia purposefully installed a far-right, anti-Russian, pro-NATO government specifically to create the conditions for annexing Crimea and later the Donbass, or NATO fired first.
It's wild someone would even boil down something as complicated as international politics down to "you see, the country is like a little guy, and it WANTS things" let alone leaving out the exact and specific reasons why both of those wars started and what each side hopes to achieve in their outcome.
Reasons are for real countries like the USAEvery other country is weird and foreignOther countries are exotic; they do things for reasons we cannot understand. Thus, bomb them.
I think it's understandable enough and the bigger problem is that no country "just wants to mind their own business". Literally not a single one, whether we favor what the country does or not.
Or another way to think about it: having borders and ports instantly means "minding your own business" implies minding other countries' business.
It's not even simplification, when you go down to that level and point out that Ukraine is consistently in the same team as Israel they have instant crashout.
I do vaguely remember there were tensions between Ukraine and the Zionist entity around 2024, mainly because Amerikkka was giving more artillery shells to Israel instead
That was just a small tantrum of a dog begging for scraps from their master, and in fact it was confirmation that UA and Isn'treal are in the same team.
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