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Why do 'Murican "car guys" make owning a car (well, the finance company really owns it) their whole personality?
It's a car
Like dickheads who wear Harley clothing to advertise the fact that they're afraid of going around corners and desperately need attention
@ivanafterall Wait, so are they the baby, or are they not the baby?
Well I'll tell you one thing, he's not the mama that's for sure.
I'd dress however she tells me to.
One thing that always surprises me in the US is the sneaker obsession. Especially NY. I'll see well dressed people in a suit and then goofy ass sneakers. Looks awful.
"dress shoes" feel awful.
Bad dress shoes feel awful. When I used to wear them at a dresser job, I loved my Bostonians.
Oh come on, they're Balenciaga!
Oh damn, we Klaraposting around here? Based
Oh my god, I actually laughed out loud at this lol
Nobody dresses fancy anymore.
I was at the Plaza Hotel in New York a while back. One of the most expensive and storied places in the world, and pretty much every guest I saw had brought their clothes at The Gap.
They are guests, not on some kind of event.
I'm glad that pretending to be fancy is falling out of fashion. It's extremely uncomfortable (save me the speech about how I need a well fitting suit or whatever, no thanks) and it's expensive (very much in conflict with your claim below that it's cheap to dress up. I'm not sure how you could possibly believe that). As someone who routinely dresses comfortably af, nothing was lost when people stopped dressing up randomly such as on airplanes. Being comfortable is very important to some people, especially those on the spectrum. I've got nothing to prove to people by being uncomfortable. I'll keep wearing gym shorts on a plane and I literally feel for people wearing suits as I know how uncomfortable every aspect of it is.
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I can get a collared business shirt for about $20, what I'd pay for a fancy T-shirt.
It's apparently a local custom in Texas to go to a wedding dressed in blue jeans, a white shirt, your boots and whatever cowboy hat you wear. Meanwhile everyone else who doesn't know what fucking a cow feels like is wearing at least a tie.
My personal theory is that it is a symptom of societal decay. People would dress nicely and look good when going out, so others would see and be impressed or attracted.
Now i have literally not worn anything else but different sweatpants for the last year or so, because i could not care less what other random passerbys perceive me as, since i am decidedly not interested in them either.
Nobody cares about real life impressions any more because the people that matter to them are in their phone. Friends and family are not necessarily in the same location as you, and romantic options are for the most part also in your phone now. Why brother looking good when potential partners are expected to judge you by your social media presence anyway and i'm just here for groceries.
I wan't her to be comfortable with me in daily life, not only when i dress fancy.
I would say not caring what strangers think of you is an enormous improvement.
Eh, i kinda miss it. Of course its carefree living, but it also is a symptom of our individual detachment from society at large. We don't relate to the people around us, we handpick those connections digitally for the most part, where shit is just as shallow as it supposedly was in reality before that.
Sure, you dont care what you look like in the street. But if you have mainstream social media as well i would bet you have made an effort for your profiles that other people can see. Good looking pics, possibly edited too, relatable posts and personal information.
We just shifted most of our presentation online.
There's a difference between not caring about what strangers think about you and showing a little respect for everyone you're going to encounter when you're out in the world
It's not about airs and graces, but that little bit of effort is indicative of how people behave when interacting with others generally
At a minimum, I don't want deal with people who haven't worn clean clothes or washed themselves (and I do volunteer work washing homeless people's clothes for them, so that they can at least enjoy the feel of warm, clean and dry clothes)
It's not snobbish to expect people to put some effort into the interactions they're going to have during the course of their day
I see it almost the opposite way. A lot of what you’re describing is exactly why I don’t put much value in dressing fancy or performing “respectability” for strangers.
Wearing a nice suit to the lodge once a week doesn’t make someone a good person. Plenty of people can dress up, look impressive in public, shake hands, say the right things, and then go home and be cruel, abusive, miserable, or drunk. I saw enough of that growing up to lose any belief that polished appearances are proof of character.
So when people stop treating suits, fancy clothes, and public image as moral signals, I don’t see that as societal decay. In some ways, I see it as growth. People are realizing that looking respectable and being respectable are not the same thing.
If anything, when I see someone using appearance, tradition, or status as a mask for behavior I don’t respect, it makes me want to be the opposite of what they stand for.
It's one of the most egalitarian things. Dressing down is inclusive of people who can't dress up. And as far as society goes, the world was very well dressed through the period it couldn't stop declaring war on itself.
symptom of societal decay.
Nah. We just realized that the people wearing suits all the time are villainous cunts. #finance
The world is also much warmer now...
That makes a lot of sense.
I do not like NYC “dress code”. I went to a cocktail bar and they asked me to keep my jacket on because I had a t shirt. The cocktails were only $15-17. Not even fancy! Is my money worth less that I’m wearing jeans or a tshirt?
This is why I love Seattle. Everywhere allows tshirts and jeans no matter how fancy. I’m comfy and spending money.
"Only 15-17$" Does everyone there has a 6 figure income or how can this bar survive lol
$15.00 for a cocktail??
I'm glad I don't drink...
That's not even horrifically expensive in most cities. I've seen people pay $20/shot at some bars.
Thats unfortunately the standard now. Makes sense in a place like Canada were our booze is mega taxed but places where it's the same price as water still want $15 for a basic cocktail.
Why would you dress up for a hotel?
When traveling "looking fancy" is the last thing I care about.
Nobody dresses fancy anymore.
Thank you for proving my point
If you expect them to dress up for no reason, sure.
Go where people actually have a reason to care and you'll find them...
It is expected to dress up for high end dining…. Even when traveling. It’s not “no reason”
That’s the point OP is making. Nobody is dressing up.
Last time I went for a fancy dinner I wore jeans and a work shirt. And that was like a $350 dinner. I'm paying for the view not to be judged for my dress.
Last time I went to a nice restaurant, my wife and I were the only ones dressed nicely.
She wore a nice dress, I wore a shirt & tie; the entire rest of the restaurant was enjoying $75 entrees in designer athlesiure outfits.
I think ties have fallen out of fashion. At least in business dress. Button up shirt, nice slacks and a sport coat, all tailored. You have to specify black tie if you want people in fancy dress.
Designer clothes are designed clothes. The pretentiousness of looking like you have money was still there, just people do it differently now. You don't scream "money" by wearing a suit you could've got tailored at Macy's. There's douchebag designer shit you can wear where it's clear you spent a lot on it, and people recognize it.
Clothes and dressing nice has always had a pretentious side. Some people used to just be showing off they could afford a suit and nice clothes. Now it doesn't mean as much. You show off you can afford to spend extra money on designer jeans.
Only 75 dollars? Where did you go? Olive Garden?
I used to occasionally go to nightclubs in LA with some older guys that insisted on wearing nice, fitted suits. They actually bought me one when I first moved out there. If I was in a nightclub in my 20's, it was usually cause I was working. So I don't really have much to compare the experience to. But I'd say they were attention-getting - not necessarily in a good way. One dude tried to start a fight with me. And a girl I texted afterward was surprised to discover that I was, in fact, quite poor. That was a while ago. I have plenty of suits now. I never wear them. I guess nobody dresses fancy anymore.
I was at a funeral recently where about 1 in 10 people were wearing cargo shorts or jeans, a graphic tee or a polo shirt, and sneakers.
Not that I think we should go back to dressing in powdered wigs and hose but I think there is room for clothing choices to mark an occasion
Depends on context. For my grandmother, I wore a black dress. For my boyfriend, a bunch of us wore replicas of his favorite tshirt.
the family of the deceased (35, sudden heart failure from undiagnosed blood pressure condition) were in suits. It was at a crematorium with a flavor of traditional Vietnamese traditions. No dress code was specified.
That's why I prefer frigates.
Im not leaving bed for anything less than a destroyer. If you want me to dress fancy, dust off a battleship.