green grass = stopping the genocide

Slop.
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they genuinely struggle with giving the crime of all crimes the weight it demands, because they lowkey love living in the society built on the back of it. it is a forum whose focus is toys and consumption after all
Well it's going to get worse anyway for that forum. One of the moderators was frequently harassed for not voting and with the upcoming ritual(mid elections) they're going to become more desperate for their own comfort above else and will turn on each other. That's where their supposed "terminally leftist" facade will be completely dropped in favour of genocide and imperialism on the global south.
Or literal green grass, since lawns are an awful use of space that could be much better used for community gardens and such.
classic liberal argument, creating a false dichotomy while admitting that they are completely fine with killing palestinians personally.
while i'm not comfortable to say that the theoretical model of FPTP strategic voting is completely false, for the love of god stop trying to reduce decades of politics into re-occurring singular "never to be repeated" moments of choosing between only two candidates that belong on a single dimension of good/bad and you just have to vote for someone that is closest to the good part.
even ignoring the game theory of it at all, i just can't fathom why do people not understand that when you make your vote a guarantee for a party, the only logical choice for that party is to ignore you and pivot to the population that might not vote for them. getting the "lesser evil" now simply makes the next election be between evil and greater evil.
The fact that Palestinians are on both sides of the track is also the admission from liberals that Palestinians are a lost cause that everyone needs to accept. That there are no alternatives they can think of and Gaza needs to die.....
YES. I was gonna comment that, libs simply don't see Palestinians as people. It's beyond fucked up.

Anarchists: derail and explode the trolley
Communists: seize control of the trolley, build a new rail line that runs over the capitalists
Liberals: applaud the trolley for killing fewer minorities than they believe it potentially could have in other situations
Maybe we should stop whoever keeps tying people to the train tracks.
Wow don't you know that's authoritarian

Libs love going "white ppl do this" when plenty of black and non-white ppl do/believe in/agree w the thing theyre complaining abt
Using POC as tokens who are assumed to agree w u as opposed to stupid white (insert group ur complaining abt, usually leftists, women or trans women) is ofc racist
There is something sinister about how it is an accepted argument against any invocation of morality and an ethical framework that such is the purview of whites.
You see it a lot in vegan/vegetarian discourse a lot, where its just assumed only white people can be opposed to animal cruelty in spite of all evidence. Black people in the US being more likely to be vegan simply does not matter to the assumption that only white people can care (And of course the assumption is always that all interlocutors are American), even when black people manifestly are more willing to take a moral stand, they are assumed to not be moral actors.
"Only privileged ppl care abt morality/things that dont directly effect them" is generally a sinister line of argument
Well yeah? That's fucking accurate. We don't want to participate in that fucked up system we want to fucking destroy it. The system is OBVIOUSLY fucked up if the libs literally recognise that those are the two choices the system produces. They admit to it.
There's a crucial piece missing to this and it's the fucking bomb we want to place under the rail car while liberals frantically grab at our arms to try and hold us back.
EDIT: Insisting that communists are all white is going to make marginalised people despise liberals more and more as time marches on and the left grows.
Copmala put Black mothers in jail
only white people take a principled stance on gaza.
Laundering imperialism by casting anti-imperialism as a white stance
Anyone trying to relitigate the 2024 election who's premise isn't that the Democratic party leadership completely and totally failed is not a serious person. Pure grade A 100% USDA certified slop right here
This is basically all that needs to be said. The Democrat establishment has both failed to protect and actively worked against the interests of all working class people in America and around the globe.
i remember when bill clinton was cutting benefits for people because im old
I remember when Obama did austerity and Biden owed me 2000 bucks and doubled child poverty because I'm young
The Supreme Court being fucked dates back to RBG refusing to retire and Obama bowing to Mitch McConnel (edit: yes its been fucked longer than that but I mean the current iteration of fuckedness). Even if you believe that the American system is democratic, you literally can not blame this on "white leftists", after all the only candidate that was even entertaining the idea of doing something to fix the Supreme Court was the one that "white leftists" were super behind, Bernie - Biden had four years to pack that court and he didn't do it even though most libs fully believe that the current court is illegitimate..
Honestly pretty funny that Obama and RGB and McConnell were instrumental in creating this moment and none of them are leftists by any reasonable measure and only one of them was a white man.
If you pull the lever you are responsible for its outcome
Don't get me wrong, the logic on display here is foul, but I don't buy into the idea that standing by and letting an evil thing, that you could prevent with a completely infinitesimal effort, happen, is meaningfully "better" than doing it yourself.
If option A is "victim on main line, subject fails to pull lever" and option B is "victim on branch line, subject pulls lever" I don't think subject B is any different from subject A, both of them bear full moral culpability.
leftists want to build a new track and liberals be like "no, pull lever"
What about an ied
I’d really love for these types to explain why dems being anti-genocide was a bridge too far, despite it being the thing that would’ve won them the election by their logic and, y’know, being the morally correct position.
Because these people put their own well being above all others and see the genocide as an inconvenient footnote that shouldn't decide the election and therefore their own comfort.
Because you must always vote for the lesser evil and you don't have the luxury to think about the long term consequences. This is THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION OF ALL TIME GOD DAMMIT!
Imagine being so gung ho about Isntreal despite its ramoant global unpopularity but then eventually it's revealed that they're not going around threatening the Samson option every day and the average congressperson really did just have a price tag ~14k
genocide is the red line. cope
Missed the part where voting makes the tram more powerful and harder to dismantle
Budgeting of "benefits" is done by the Congress, no the President, under Democratic Congress, it was the 'evil' Sinema and Manchin who shut down everything, under Republicans, such excuses are not needed. There's never enough votes somehow, no matter how much control Democrats have.
The Congress has the power to expand the Supreme Court too. Will Dems do so if they win next time both the legislature and executive? No they won't.
Btw, Bill Clinton was infamous for eliminating welfare.
You don't have good healthcare because Joe Liberalman said he was gonna fill Buster, so with no SUPERMAJORITY good things are impossible.
Voting works!
The response to that is funny too

Yeah if only the Kamala campaign had actually attacked him on the Epstein connection instead of never mentioning it, barely mentioning his numerous SA charges and instead going with 37 (or whatever the stupid fucking number was) counts of financial fraud and vaguely calling him a "fellon"
Libs pulling this revisionist bullshit and pretending like they gave a shit about Epstein before last year and before that didn't think he killed himself and that anyone asking any questions was Qanon is really pissing me off
I remember feeling like my brain was fully falling out of my head as we were stewing in COVID lockdowns and I was learning shit like how Maxwell’s yacht the Lady Ghislaine was bought by so and so and blah blah blah all this shit.
It was out there for so long
Yeah... That's how fucking bad she was, dickhead. I do not get these people.
If they care so much about racism and sex crimes, why are they demanding that I vote for the candidate that lied about Arabs committing mass r*pe multiple times?
Both sides have a plethora of racist pedos.
Ah but there lies a flaw in your post. The Democrats(The good guys) have decorum and care about optics. They would have been polite about being racist pedos!
You’re right. At least the democrats were serving pizza while indulging in their racist pedo urges.
i'm still not voting for genocide joe

historically, poc and people on benefits are treated very well under dem rulership. yes, yes. let's let a genocide happen so we can have disabled people only able to have 2k in savings so they're never able to get out of poverty. i am a progressive
Gaza people on benefits
Black People people on benefits
Gaza, people, on, and benefits
Gaza Black People
Gaza Black people people on benefits?
Once I figure out what that label is saying I'll figure out the true sage nature of their take I'm sure.
you don't understand. Once the ruling class does a little bit of genocide they'll get it out of their system and they'll stop honest
