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ICP is based as hell:
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Out here pretending like you ain't offendin'
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You redneck judges with racist grudges
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Speaking as someone who isn't a juggalo, it's clear that the subculture represents a lot more people than just the ones who identify with it. Like with Punk, a lot of outsiders don't look past the aesthetic to realize that they're trying to convey an important social message and be a voice for disenfranchised groups. They aren't just people in clown make-up, they're people who were fucked over by society and this is the outlet they found. Sadly it's easier to laugh at memes about magnets than to confront their reality.
I'd include the rap subculture as well but regrettably their message became diluted when they achieved mainstream success and were co-opted by the marketing amd propaganda machine as another tool to perpetuate the Spectacle.
I am also not a Juggalo, but every one that I have met has been kind and accepting to an aggressive degree.
I grew up around quite a few as they are pretty common in the Middle West especially middle and low income areas. Aggressively inclusive is a pretty good description of the subculture's values. There's some bullshit like anti science and anti education, but it comes from the elitism and exclusivity of those institutions which is a problem in public outreach and inclusiveness in academia. Most of the juggalos I've met just want to do drugs, listen to horrorcore rap, and watch wrestling, but I've also met some that can't stand any of those things but just celebrate the stuff they do like instead of denigrating other people and their aesthetics.
I grew up around a lot of juggalos. The music is kind of just a small part of the culture, it really is an entire culture, one based on acceptance of anyone. At least in the 2000s there wasn't anything else like that. Old heads gatekept punk, they had officially declared punk was dead. Metal was mainstream. Eminem was the only "credible" white rapper because he had street cred from Detroit. If you didn't feel like you fit in, the juggalos were there saying you're welcome here. If you decide to call yourself a jaggalo, then you are, and you're apart of the family. No interrogations about what music you've listened to your whole life, when you got into a specific scene, what socioeconomic background you have.
And yeah your second point about rap is 100% true. I saw $uicideboy$ come and go. I remember in like 2014 they were underground, I really fucked with them. They made over 500 songs, had a huge following for the time, and were doing great. Then they signed onto universal to release iwtdino or whatever in like 2018. Never felt more betrayed. I really fucked with yung lean too, but he straight up said he was going to sell out. He was gonna get money. I respect that. $B are just corpo shills now acting like they're underground while being the most mainstream corpo rappers to exist currently.
Rave was the same way until it also got pulled mainstream around 2007/2008
Before that we had assholes like Joe Biden trying to outlaw it by saying proving water to patrons was “encouraging drug use” and classifying any clubs that did it as “crackhouses”
That shit was my church and they burned it. I stand in solidarity with Juggalos.
I was trying to figure out where edm fits in to that but yeah, it was mainstream by the 90s. Started in the 70s, by the 80s there were defined raves for edm. But its hard to look at rave culture/edm as a whole since its so old and widespread. UK edm was different than US edm which was different than Latin American edm etc. Then all the divides within edm. House ravers didn't want to go to hard style raves. Hard style ravers didn't want to go to trance raves, etc.
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The show Workaholics some years back did a juggalo episode and it was eye opening.
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We must be close to the sort of flexible eink display that will finally make Rorschach's mask a thing.
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You know those influencers who are like makeup addicts? They often use shading or tape to change the shape of their faces. I wonder whether they could fool facial recognition technology as well.
The difference being that a person made up like that won't stand out as much as a person wearing Juggalo makeup.
Hello fellow juggalos, it’s me, a juggalo. I was just taking Wolfie for a walk.
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Second time this week I've had an occasion to use this gif. Shame I couldn't find one with more pixels.
I used to think juggalos were cringe but I'm really digging how based they are ideology wise. Their music isn't my taste but I've got weird musical preferences anyway.
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Juggalos are still identified as a domestic terrorist org, probably for this exact reason
Jesus, with the horrible and steady descent into hell over the past years, I totally forgot about that. Ah, the nostalgia of the past when these clowns were so scary that they got bumped up to terrorists.
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I think in the future everyone will wear masks like daft punk
It won't work alone for long in the age of AI. You won't be tracked and identified by face alone. It'll be a complex array of data points. Your face, your hair, your eye color if the cameras have the resolution, your height, your gait, your posture, your scars and injuries, your visible birth defects, whether you use mobility aids, the wireless devices emitting signals in your pockets, the list goes on and on. They'll assemble dozens of data points and make it extremely difficult to falsify enough to avoid detection instead of just getting flagged as suspicious.
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No need to paint the face, this is known since time by Paparazi tired famous people.
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If Juggalo makeup isn't your thing, going Sith would probably work just as well.
If you're thinking lf Darth Maul, that was his face because he was a Zabrak and they sport facial tattoos. Facial tattoos aren't a necessary feature of the Sith.
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Why would they need facial recognition? Just look for the guy in clown makeup.
Wasn’t this established a long time ago?
It was.
And I have bad news: it's largely no longer true. Modern models, gait recognition, 3d face maps, all can de-anonymize juggalo/clown makeup
What is a juggalo?
Fan of Insane Clown Posse, aka ICP
That's what it is? Well fuck if I know
Yah, it was a big ol subculture in the 00s. Still kinda around but nowhere near as much. I grew up around some. Crunchy as hell but extremely anti-racist and anti-homophobia (despite almost all of them gratuitously using the word “fag” and all its other forms, but that was the style at the time.) I had almost entirely good experiences with them.
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He’s duckin’ them drones, he’s swerving them cams,
He’s rockin’ that greasepaint, confusin’ the scans.
Facial recognition? Ha, you ain’t got a shot,
When my mug’s lookin’ wilder than a Jackson Pollock!
He’s pourin’ out Faygo, all sticky and sweet,
Splashin’ those lenses, now the fuzz can’t see.
He’s trickin’ Big Brother, he’s hackin’ the flow,
They livin’ 1984, but he’s sayin’ “Fuck no!”
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So the Juggalo 's were right?
Man, this timeline is insane
Great until the cops are looking for that one Juggalo in Jamestown but you have to represent..
Alternatively use a guy fawkes mask.
Wait...
Yes, but, you have to keep changing the makeup design!
Last year, Ticketmaster and LiveNation invested in a former military facial recognition company, with the hope that the technology could be used to both strengthen and speed up event entry
Because of course
People will call the cops on clowns they spot on the street, and cops respond. I kid you not, at least in some places.
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