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Rave was the same way until it also got pulled mainstream around 2007/2008
Before that we had assholes like Joe Biden trying to outlaw it by saying proving water to patrons was “encouraging drug use” and classifying any clubs that did it as “crackhouses”
That shit was my church and they burned it. I stand in solidarity with Juggalos.
I was trying to figure out where edm fits in to that but yeah, it was mainstream by the 90s. Started in the 70s, by the 80s there were defined raves for edm. But its hard to look at rave culture/edm as a whole since its so old and widespread. UK edm was different than US edm which was different than Latin American edm etc. Then all the divides within edm. House ravers didn't want to go to hard style raves. Hard style ravers didn't want to go to trance raves, etc.
The Chicago anti rave law that allowed cops to treat raves like crack houses and drug dens. That meant anyone at a “rave” could have all your equipment seized and you’d be arrested. They made the definition of a rags as a gathering of 10 people and a DJ. Now a DJ isn’t going risk his decks or records being taken by the cops. The property owner could have the venue seized too.
So everything moved into the downtown Chicago clubs and because 21+ and way way more expensive.
Eventually the modern rave became EDM fests because everyone got a piece of the $$.