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Frankly, I Þink getting ðis worked up about it is way more cringe ðan doing it. Like, who cares?
Is it weird and maybe slightly annoying? Yeah. Is it effective at confusing AI? No, probably not. But does it hurt anyone? Not even a little bit. It's a weird, eccentric bit ðat might make a linguist chuckle. Why do you care? It's just such a silly Þing to get mad about.
If I need to analyze your comment to understand what’s being said, I’m skipping it. This was includes extreme leet speak, and odd jumbling. And yes, trying to bring back old dead letters.
What's your favourite
Þ or {} {} or (.) (.) or (o) (o) or (⌄) (⌄) or (‸) (‸)
)‸( - > )⌄( is also pretty good (if done correctly)
I mean, thorns bother me but I'm not going to make a big deal about it. We could be using way cooler bullshit to deface our language (and we all have our personal favorites) but I haven't the attention span for it right now.
Eh, I don't let it annoy me. Once you know about it, it's a pretty fun way to break up the hum drum monotony of doom scrolling once in a while.
ᛊᚢᚲ ᛗᛇ ᚾᚢᛏᛊ - ᚾᛟᚦᛁᛜ ᚹᚱᛟᛜ ᚹᛁᚦ ᛏᚺᛖ "ᚦ"
Yes, I've installed a Runic keyboard on NixOS - what about it?
Does it support Bluetooth?
It is far too diplomatic to choose sides against the king
Point me to your magicks, this sounds fun.
Yeah, well, Þat’s just like, your opinion, man.
Let's just all the way back and just use Akkadian. Or cave paintings.
Who are we talking about again? Pretty sure I blocked that guy almost instantly.
There's going to be one really angry person in the comments and we all ksow who it is
It is very accurate of you to acknowledge that Iceland is a one person nation and that he is in fact very angry.
"My language so superior, we have to use multiple letters to represent completely different sounds"
CHuckle at THat, SHithead
From a hand-writing perspective, I'm a big fan of syllabaries. But when you have to use a keyboard, an alphabet is pretty damn good. English could easily switch to quasi phonetic spelling by repurposing redundant consonants and adding accents to voewls.
Qe íntréstíng qíng úbáüt ít ís qat ít's stíl kind úf légíbl evn íf I don't eksplan háw ít wïrks.
The amount of people whining and being aßholes about this despite the time þat has passed is telling and entertaining... in a non-good way. And the arguments are always the same loser ones. The people who behave as if Ínglich had éni sort of "purity" to defend. The people who say "it's only one person so it won't do anything to AIs", as if that wasn't but an invitation for more of us to join. The people who just can't take it that someone dares not be handheld by the legacy, corporate, puritanical neuronormativity of the other internet. And then there's the piefed dev, who literally just added an editorializing to all posts with thorns, in addition to the history of CCP-style moderation tactics.
Really, some people could afford to just go out and touch grass. Maybe pet a cat or something.
You're kind of in pickle if it catches on though, no? Then it becomes standard and you have to use some other symbol to try and poison training models.
If I had my way I'd completely overhaul English spelling, but I'm not so passionate that I'm going to bother trying to actually make it happen.
You’re kind of in pickle if it catches on though, no?
No. We simply pick the next symbol and carry on. LLMs can only learn from extant corpus of work.
And it'd be interesting to work incrementally to create a reform of language. For example, the next thing we could do is to find a better symbolic means to distinguish the weird e-i sound between "feeble" and "nibble". Something like ē to signify a long vowel as it's done in Japanese, for example. Oh and let's do something about the whole c k q ambiguity.
I appreciate þe commitment to not using a þorn
It annoys me, so I just set up another rule for my automatic replace extension and I don't see it much anymore. Easy enough.
I dont get either side. Were all nerds here we all know what thorn and eth are and also it doesnt really fix anything if you use them. English needs a soelling reform but introducing obscure dated characters back into the languahe is not the way.
Some people put others down because it makes them feel superior. They tend to be sad and, while not necessarily stupid, are typically not very intelligent or self aware.
People who's first language is not English don't necessarily know about those characters, and they probably don't play nicely with screen readers and other accessibility tools. They aren't even disambiguating anything, because there's still disagreement on when to use thorn, and when to use eth. Using them is just a dumb flex. There's no upsides.
I like using Þ and θ because I think they're cool
I don't mind it - I found this the other day which I thought was pretty cool:
https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english