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[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 63 points 2 months ago (22 children)

Ok but for real, that wouldn't work, right? How would them holding it complete the circuit? The circuit is just gonna be from one screw to the top of the pole back through another screw, not the part the person is holding.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You can short the terminals on a car battery with your body with no issue (there's a theory that that's why you see it in movies so much - if anyone actually tries it the studio isn't giving them an idea that actually works. Same with duct-tape gags and chloroform), but it might melt the hardware and set the floor on fire which would be fun! What they should really do is connect a HV source and charge up the pole. Won't cause any lasting harm, but hopefully it'll convince them they drove a screw through a live wire.

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Who the hell told you you can short a car battery with your body? You absolutely can’t.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

You definitely can. As in you can grab both terminals and not be injured.

Source: am high level electrical engineer.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not a short, by definition.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isn't it? You're shorting the battery terminals by connecting them directly, it's just a shitty wire lol

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The body is a resistor, limiting the fire of the system in the same way if a lamp would be in the circuit.

A short is a circuit with ideally no impedance, there isn't an ideal circuit and one can debate how much resistance would invalidate the term 'short circuit' so both of you might be right.

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (21 children)

Just checking: Is this a semantic argument about my use of "short"?

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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I mean, a car battery isn't going to do anything even if you could complete a circuit. You can just grab the terminals on a car battery, 12V isn't high enough to be noticeable on dry skin.

You'd want to solder on the hot lead of an extension cord hooked up to 120 if you wanted to make sure they never touch that pole again.

Disclaimer: don't do this, it'll probably kill.

[–] Balaquina@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A electric horse fence is a better option. Will zing you but isn't lethal and also has an intermittent current. Specifically designed to be touched by living things without harm. But stay away from cattle fencing, that can kill someone with a heart condition.

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[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not unless the person two floors downstairs is in on it

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[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure, if you want the battery to short out and start a fire.

Cut the tips off then drill out the screws so they break off the next time they use it

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 22 points 2 months ago

Seriously though, this is def something you take up with the landlord, the fines and payment for the repairs alone will be punishment enough.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How thin would your floors and ceilings need to be for this to be real?

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thinner than the lag bolts are long...?

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

My browser history now includes several Amazon listings for stripper poles.

I have learned that:

  1. The listing ALWAYS calls them "dancing poles" but Amazon knows what you mean,

  2. About half of them are sold as "unisex" even though all of the photos of them in use show women,

  3. Only some require drilling into the ceiling. The few that do ship with screws or lag bolts that are approx. 2 inches in length and come with drywall anchors.

So, if installing any of the poles from Amazon's first page of results, your floor would have to be approximately 1.5 inches thick.

If the downstairs apartment had no ceiling treatment and you looked up at joists and subfloor, you might get here if she decided to attach between the ceiling joists. In a typical residential structure with a drywall ceiling, you'd need lag bolts some 10 or 12 inches long to reach through the plate of the pole, 3/4" of drywall, 8 or 10 inches of floor system depending, 3/4" of subfloor and 1/2" of flooring.

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[–] tomiant@piefed.social 10 points 2 months ago

I got drill bits that can go pretty deep. The reason this shit doesn't happen to professionals like myself is that I am scared of electricity and power tools and have no clue what I'm doing and have people do it for me.

SMH

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A car battery would do shit all. Dry skin potential point is like 65V.

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I highly doubt the electricity would flow to the pole itself at all if you connect both contacts to the top

[–] yobasari@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The screws will melt and probably start a fire with the wood they are screwed into. The pole might get hot too from the current that goes through the fasteners but most of the heat would be in the screws and the fasteners and dissipate before it reaches the pole. Hardly any current will flow through the pole itself.

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[–] starik@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] tomiant@piefed.social 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

That only solves your problem. It doesn't add problems for the perpetrator, which is the only thing we are concerned with here.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doesn’t actually solve your problem…you further fuck up your own hardwood

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[–] starik@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago

You can use it on them too

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hammer and punch them back down. Or drip lube down the bolts so it makes the pole unusable.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Or glue. Glue would be hilarious.

[–] Tehhund@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Make friends with the legends who live downstairs.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A car battery would not do much. Let's try 40kHz AC?

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 months ago

Did you mean kV? I don't know if 40kHz is high enough, but I know at some point it doesn't even shock anymore, just burns. Hence you can take a screwdriver in your hand, and get it close to high frequency Tesla coil / slayer exciter circuit (not that I know the difference) and have it flow through you no problem, just if you touch the spark directly it burns.

[–] one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Disagree. DC current will seek the path of least resistance, and will not go down the pole.

I'm unsure if this is an apartment, but I would start by reaching out to the landlord and say your lights have been acting up whenever they are using it. Maybe say your electric bill has been higher, maybe stage that a little bit by simply leaving a light on for a month. Have them inspect the floor damage too.

Once they leave, I would install cannibalize a power cable, plug it into the wall and hook the hot wire up to one of the screws.

The benefit of using AC, is that it is less likely to take the path of least resistance and travels as waves back and forth, doesn't necessarily matter if they are grounded or not, they will feel it, likely marginally lower since it is also going into everything their 8ft pole is touching.

...I don't know why I'm on a villain arc this morning.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Ah btw, if there's resistance while drilling a hole for a ceiling lamp, stop.
Could be a heating pipe, with decades old heating sludge.

[–] ecvanalog@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

That’s just quitter talk.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah my landlord wouldn't be too happy.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Running a sufficient amount of electricity through it may turn it into a heated rod.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Frangible nuts. Get the load onto the nuts instead of the floor/ceiling. Wait until the neighbour is in the middle of something very physical, then blow the charge allowing the bolts (screws) to slip.

[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

This is cute, but also in case anyone needs to learn something today:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstitial_space

[–] AshLassay@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That wiki says it’s common in hospitals and labs. Interstitial space is not the same as a floor cavity.

Also

The heights of these spaces are generally 6 to 8 feet (1.8 to 2.4 m) and allow easy access for repair or alteration

So yeah not common in a residential building.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

1.8m!? There's no way in hell a landlord would allow such a perfectly fine living space to go the waste!

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